Mottram needs to shut up

Mottram is a legend.

End of story.

uk boy you must be stupid

if your moron is a "legend" what will you say haile, bekele, tergat, H ELG, .............

mesfin wrote:

uk boy you must be stupid

if your moron is a "legend" what will you say haile, bekele, tergat, H ELG, .............

there's more to becoming a legend than just running fast. Ask Pre.

You Fwit wrote:

well he did break the 3km road world record on the weekend...how bout you do some research and actually use your f$#king brain before you post

If had used your brain, you would know that is a World's Best, not a World Record.

Big difference.

In ethiopia, there is a proverb:

"for a leprosy one finger is precious"

This is hilarious! We wait forever for anyone to even challenge the Africans and then when some one comes along we get pissed because he gets excited. Gotta love it. You are right, he only has the one record or maybe two, and in 2004 he lost to a bunch of guys. Wait... Wasn't 2004 2 years ago. Stop looking back to when he was still developing. A 13:00 5k will go to Europe and look awful in the early stages of his international races. Let the man talk. He has backed it up. He beats the world's best one-n-one. That is what he said and that is what he does.I am sure someone will find a single race to negate this so I will apoligize early for my lack of looking up results. If anyone internationally gets upset then maybe they should set up a Johnson v. Bailey style competition. Honestly, I love this guy. He is the most outspoken runner since Salazar and then Pre. Our sport needs some color. I guess that since Mottram isn't American we can't root for him. Oh, and I agree with an early post. He would leave Webb in the dust!

seriously, what the f uck is going on here? finally a non-african is doing amazing things and you f****** are coming on here and bashing him for just being a complete badass.... oh i and i love how that dumbass posted results from 2 years ago like they actually mean a lot right now. dickhead

"That's the way it is," Mottram said in Melbourne, a day after arriving home from six months of racing in Europe. "When you've had me one-on-one against those guys they can't beat me."

winning two races at the end of the season while you are fresh and everyone else has put in 10+ hard races means nothing. that's like claiming you are the best by winning racs in april early track season then disappearing right before the championships. fact of the matter is, he got toasted in the CWG's, and then was a non-factor at World Cross. His best race this year was a 7:32 oceania record but ironically he sat on the second place guy for 90% of the race then kicked away to win it. he basically used the other guy as a pacemaker.

mottram's quote should be:

"i am the best guy in the world when there are no pacemakers and it is a race that the rest of the field doesn't care too much about, and/or is too tired from the rest of the season and I am fresh....basically I am the best guy in the world when everything rolls in my favor"

i used to like mottram but his quote is moronic thing to say.

That's a good way of putting it. I still think it's cool that he's showing some bravado, it's definitely nice to have some characters in the sport, but like a lot of trash talking his statement isn't very accurate.

I would hardly say Mottram was "fresh" at the end of the season. He nearly withdrew from the race because he felt so tired and stale from a regular season of racing since April.

Nor did he get "toasted" at the CWG- the 5000 was a great race that he lost, but it's not like he tanked horribly. It was a great race that he didn't win, big deal. The 1500, he fell, which happens to even the best runners- ask Jim Ryun or Mary Decker about that.

Finally, Bekele ALWAYS has an excuse when he gets beat. The fact is, he seems to have some trouble running tactical 5000 meter races-- his last 100 meters doesn't seem to match up with an El G, Kipchoge, etc (basically, guys with insane 1500 speed). A 10K last lap in 53 and last 1000 in 2:28 will smoke almost anyone, but a 5k that closes in like 1:52 seem just a little quick for bekele.

maybe not, but i think we can all agree at the very least he was not as over raced as bekele... that guy was running 5k's nearly every week and sometimes 2x a week... and i wouldn't question bekele's ability to close... fact is when it has counted the guy has been unbelievable... yeah he got outkicked by el g in a 5k after winning the 10k gold... nothing to be ashamed of there

for a championship race i would still put my money on bekele over mottram... personally i hope bekele beats his ass... i think mottram is a great runner but he only beat bekele in a 5k once, bekele is still the better runner and I am sure mottram and bekele both know that

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I would hardly say Mottram was "fresh" at the end of the season. He nearly withdrew from the race because he felt so tired and stale from a regular season of racing since April.

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What we are saying here is that no body in the entire athleitcs comptition brag like these and we are advising your "baby" please be strong and then say what ever you like. Even if he perform like haile or el g. , it is not worth while to put himself as if he did miracle things.

Mottram please grown up mentally !!!!!!

This is fantastic for the sport.

What we need now is a rival for Mottram who can spit it back at him. An American, a Brit, or a Kiwi - someone the public can relate to. Not another African with an un-prounancable surname (at least as far as the general public is concerned).

Imagine a bad-ass American and/or Brit taking on the big-talking mullet wearer? Your average sports watcher would lap it up.

I'm sorry...whilst El-G v Bekele and Tergat v Gab may cause us to salivate, it doesn't cause an eyebrow raise for anyone else.

I think what he is saying is great! Our sport needs stuff like this. How many athletes in any event show any type of personality like so many other stars in other sports do. Mottram has proven that he can run and beat the best and he is telling people that. Big deal! People like Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis and many others have said the sport needs it top stars to show personality...well here it is! Keep talking Mottram!!!

I don't remember Bekele making excuses when he got beat in Shanghai a few weeks ago, or when Lagat beat him in London.

Yeah Mottram may have been tired but after those runs doesit really seem like the fatigue was a big deal? not really. You put Mottram and Bekele in a major championship race, who do you think will come out on top? Bekele.

My point with CWG is that he didn't win. There were no pacemakers and how the race developed was something that suited Mottram. Seeing how it wasn't a pacemaker race, he should have won based on his quite right? But he didn't. Granted he wasn't blown away, but he still finished like 2sec down on the winner when it came time to really kick home.

An article with Michael Johnson talking about track personalities (or lack thereof) in the sport these days. From the London Telegraph in March...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/sport/2006/05/03/sojohn03.xml

Ive raced at some of the same meets as mottram before and he is the most arrogant person ive ever seen. Most other people ive spoken to seem to agree. I take my hat off to him for competing with the Africans and he is doing a good job. But he is not better than all of them one on one at all. He walks around with a smug smirk on his face like he is God's gift to athletics! He is one of the best middle/long distance runners in the world but until he starts beating them week-in week-out he should keep quiet.

Complete self-confidence is important and admirable but a little bit of modesty goes a long way too

Jesus, Mottram can't win with you can he? AT CWG it was HE who took the pace in the last 1200 only to have Choge burn him at the end. At the World Cup Mottram led a significant part of the race- over 1km. That is hardly kicking by in the last lap.

No excuses are valid. If Bekele wasn't right he shouldn't have run, and since he did run he has no right to claim that he was sick. His quote after the race said it all- 'It's hard without pacemakers'. Mottram claimed a massive scalp and it made a cocky guy even cockier, but I have no problems with that. If it stops distance running from dying at the hands of races filled with Africans that people in Western countries can't relate to then it's great for the sport. He's made the comments and now I want to see him back it up.