Kara Goucher 31:17 in Finland

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By free Powerbars, do you mean free iron injections?

frmr CU runner wrote:

To address the allegation of whether or not she is using "drugs", I cannot either deny or confirm since I have not had contact with her in many years. But I can confirm that while at CU, this wasn't an issue, unless you count free Powerbars as performance enhancing drugs ;)

NYK wrote:

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/lists/all_time/us_at_w.html

Check the note at the top of that page:

(as of August 1, 2003)

They don't update things too often out there. Lazy gits.

Here are the results and new (I think list for the US all timers)

Great Race for the ladies today

1 2 Kayoko Fukushi Japan 31.00,64

2 1 Benita Johnson Australia 31.14,80

3 15 Kara Goucher USA 31.17,12 ****PR

4 7 Jen Rhines USA 31.24,16 ****PR

5 6 Katie McGregor USA 31.32,17

6 11 Sylvia Kibet Kenya 31.39,34

7 4 Lucy Wangui Kenya 31.48,68

8 10 Sara Slattery USA 31.57,94 ***** PR I think by 30 secs

9 13 Victoria Jackson USA 32.59,32

10 12 Samia Akbar USA 33.30,84

Nice moves on the ladies side as well.... Goucher #2 all-time Now I bet her hubby would like the same on Friday...

10,000 METERS

30:50.32 ........... Deena Drossin (Asics) 02

31.17,12 Kara Goucher USA 06 *****

31:18.96 Amy Rudolph (adi) 05

31:19.89 ............ Lynn Jennings (NikI) 92

31:21.20 Katie McGregor (Reeb) 05

31:21.92 Elva Dryer (Nik) 05

31.24,16 Jen Rhines USA 06****

31:28.92 .... Francie Larrieu Smith (NBal) 91

31:30.89 ............ Annette Peters (Nik) 97

31:34.37 Kate O'Neill (Nik) 04

31:35.25 Blake Russell (Reeb) 05

31:35.3 ................. Mary Slaney (AW) 82

31:37.26 ........ Anne Marie Lauck (NikRR) 93

31:38.04 ......... Judi St. Hilaire (NikI) 92

31:41.33 ............ Libbie Hickman (Nik) 99

No, I mean powerbars. The shitty things we used to substitute for lunch in the umc b/c we couldn't afford a real lunch. Used to stuff about 15 in my long sleeve shirt that I took to Dal Ward

Good for you. But in Kara's case, I'm sure the iron injections helped as well.

frmr CU runner wrote:

No, I mean powerbars. The shitty things we used to substitute for lunch in the umc b/c we couldn't afford a real lunch. Used to stuff about 15 in my long sleeve shirt that I took to Dal Ward

We've got a good bunch of young women coming up, and one of them is bound to be a great marathoner.

in a runnersweb.com interview deena kastor said she would run a 3k on july 6th, which she did in 856, then a 5k in rome on july 14th which she did not run, then she said she would try to break her own american 10k record in helsinki on july 26th, she did not run today, is she injured?

They look the same going in as they do going out. Very tasty and when they are free, even more so. Getting all krunk with the free PowerBar Junk.

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I also was a former teammate of Kara's at CU. She was good in high school, good in college, and the fast times she has been running are equivalent to a transformation of a new coach and new workouts.

As to the drug issue, if you know Kara at all, then you know she would never do them. I can vouch for her character, and to the many conversations of how if it ever came to having to take drugs, that would be the day she would hang up her spikes. Any real former teammate of hers would know that.

Kara is in a great environment and has lots of training opportunities. A new attitude can do wonders for a runners performance, as most of you on here should know.

And yes, that puts Kara second on the all time womens US list

Way to go Kara! I always knew she had it in her!

former buff wrote:

I also was a former teammate of Kara's at CU. She was good in high school, good in college, and the fast times she has been running are equivalent to a transformation of a new coach and new workouts.

As to the drug issue, if you know Kara at all, then you know she would never do them. I can vouch for her character, and to the many conversations of how if it ever came to having to take drugs, that would be the day she would hang up her spikes. Any real former teammate of hers would know that.

Kara is in a great environment and has lots of training opportunities. A new attitude can do wonders for a runners performance, as most of you on here should know.

In my experience as a CU runner, I would like to generalize that is how ANY former CU runner feels about the "drug" situation. Very well put...

So can a new coach who sees "shades of grey" when it comes to "drugs".

frmr CU runner wrote:

[quote]former buff wrote:

In my experience as a CU runner, I would like to generalize that is how ANY former CU runner feels about the "drug" situation. Very well put...

Also, that is what ANY runner, CU or not, says about performance enhancing drug use, even the guilty ones!!

Who says: "I think EPO is good."??!!

Something is fishy in Oregon wrote:

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Start a new thread and cut and paste the contents of the linked article into it. Personally, I don't find anything inflammatory about article.

staff wrote:

frmr CU runner wrote:

[quote]former buff wrote:

In my experience as a CU runner, I would like to generalize that is how ANY former CU runner feels about the "drug" situation. Very well put...

Also, that is what ANY runner, CU or not, says about performance enhancing drug use, even the guilty ones!!

Who says: "I think EPO is good."??!!

Exactly...only felt I had the right to speak for those that had been in my situation. But definitly agree that many people must feel this way

Former Buff 2 (i know who you are): you know Kara got the iron injection in college because she had a ferratin level of 1 and could no longer even walk up stairs. It is not illegal, it was a medical procedure for the sake of her health. That is not using drugs.

Think what you want about Alberto but no matter what you think, that does not make Kara guilty of using drugs.

I have to say, that her performance in the 10k tonight definately convinces me she is on drugs whether she knows it or not. Alberto has a pretty dirty past of using all kinds of drugs legal and illegal to boost performance(prozac, thyroid medicaiton). Being a friend of some elite runners, I think there is pretty strong suspicion of her this year.

how so? look at her 5000m PR - it totally correlated with a low 31min 10000. And its still 75sec off of the fastest Ethiopian or Paula's mark - it's not exactly blazing in the grand scheme of things. You need to get a better handle on just how good performances are before you start spewing things about drugs.