5000m - will be all about Almgren trying to be the first non East-African under 12.40, joining only 6 other men in history to have been under that mark.
A 5000m field that stacked won't be all about Almgren. He won't even win the race.
Almgren only ran 3:36 in the 1500 today in his home country.
5000m - will be all about Almgren trying to be the first non East-African under 12.40, joining only 6 other men in history to have been under that mark.
A 5000m field that stacked won't be all about Almgren. He won't even win the race.
If I really need to explain to you why, despite not having the fastest PR or maybe even the "most" chance at winning, Almgren will have the most eyes on him and why a white European attempting to run a performance that has only ever been achieved by East Africans (and only 6 of them, ever) is by far the biggest storyline of the race - win or not, then it's clear to me you are utterly clueless about this sport.
A 5000m field that stacked won't be all about Almgren. He won't even win the race.
If I really need to explain to you why, despite not having the fastest PR or maybe even the "most" chance at winning, Almgren will have the most eyes on him and why a white European attempting to run a performance that has only ever been achieved by East Africans (and only 6 of them, ever) is by far the biggest storyline of the race - win or not, then it's clear to me you are utterly clueless about this sport.
Idk, Grant Fisher and Nico Young both have PBs within a second of Almgren and are both younger (in Nico's case, a lot younger). Nico also won this race last year. I'd say either of them, and perhaps even Blanks, has as good a chance if not better than Almgren of becoming the first non-East African under 12:40.
A 5000m field that stacked won't be all about Almgren. He won't even win the race.
If I really need to explain to you why, despite not having the fastest PR or maybe even the "most" chance at winning, Almgren will have the most eyes on him and why a white European attempting to run a performance that has only ever been achieved by East Africans (and only 6 of them, ever) is by far the biggest storyline of the race - win or not, then it's clear to me you are utterly clueless about this sport.
You are clueless if you think everyone has the same interest in a race. Europeans might focus on Almgren. Americans will be looking at Fisher, Nico, Blanks, and Wolfe (you might not have noticed, but there's a guy here who eagerly follows all of Fisher's interviews and racing activity). Aussies will be keen to watch Robinson. Africans have their own rooting interests. It's a diverse and stacked field.
If you think you're so smart, let's wager on it. If Almgren loses the race, you can't post on here for a month. If he wins, I'll spend the next month complimenting everything you say. You brave enough to accept?
Here's what World Athletics published in its meet preview.
"The 5000m features the four fastest men of 2025 – double Olympic medallist Grant Fisher, world 10,000m bronze medallist Andreas Almgren and last year’s Bislett Games top two Nico Young and Biniam Mehary – against world silver medallist Isaac Kimeli, Jacob Krop and Birhanu Balew."
Not all about Almgren. He wasn't even the first athlete named.
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If I really need to explain to you why, despite not having the fastest PR or maybe even the "most" chance at winning, Almgren will have the most eyes on him and why a white European attempting to run a performance that has only ever been achieved by East Africans (and only 6 of them, ever) is by far the biggest storyline of the race - win or not, then it's clear to me you are utterly clueless about this sport.
You are clueless if you think everyone has the same interest in a race. Europeans might focus on Almgren. Americans will be looking at Fisher, Nico, Blanks, and Wolfe (you might not have noticed, but there's a guy here who eagerly follows all of Fisher's interviews and racing activity). Aussies will be keen to watch Robinson. Africans have their own rooting interests. It's a diverse and stacked field.
If you think you're so smart, let's wager on it. If Almgren loses the race, you can't post on here for a month. If he wins, I'll spend the next month complimenting everything you say. You brave enough to accept?
If I really need to explain to you why, despite not having the fastest PR or maybe even the "most" chance at winning, Almgren will have the most eyes on him and why a white European attempting to run a performance that has only ever been achieved by East Africans (and only 6 of them, ever) is by far the biggest storyline of the race - win or not, then it's clear to me you are utterly clueless about this sport.
You are clueless if you think everyone has the same interest in a race. Europeans might focus on Almgren. Americans will be looking at Fisher, Nico, Blanks, and Wolfe (you might not have noticed, but there's a guy here who eagerly follows all of Fisher's interviews and racing activity). Aussies will be keen to watch Robinson. Africans have their own rooting interests. It's a diverse and stacked field.
If you think you're so smart, let's wager on it. If Almgren loses the race, you can't post on here for a month. If he wins, I'll spend the next month complimenting everything you say. You brave enough to accept?
I think you are misinterpreting Salvitore. It's about the storylines and intentions, not about who on this board is going to follow who. Almgren has already stated he wants to break 12:40 after a big PB in the 3000m. That's the biggest story. That's what the race is defined around.
If I really need to explain to you why, despite not having the fastest PR or maybe even the "most" chance at winning, Almgren will have the most eyes on him and why a white European attempting to run a performance that has only ever been achieved by East Africans (and only 6 of them, ever) is by far the biggest storyline of the race - win or not, then it's clear to me you are utterly clueless about this sport.
Idk, Grant Fisher and Nico Young both have PBs within a second of Almgren and are both younger (in Nico's case, a lot younger). Nico also won this race last year. I'd say either of them, and perhaps even Blanks, has as good a chance if not better than Almgren of becoming the first non-East African under 12:40.
If we look at it in terms of an improvement curve, Almgren may have improved the most since last year. Almgren has improved nearly 5 seconds over 3000m while the only thing Young has improved is his mile by over two seconds. Grant Fisher ran 4:49.48 over 2000m but otherwise has been off. So all you have to defend yourself is age which isn't always reliable. I'd say Almgren has the most upside here based on the evidence.
I think you are misinterpreting Salvitore. It's about the storylines and intentions, not about who on this board is going to follow who. Almgren has already stated he wants to break 12:40 after a big PB in the 3000m. That's the biggest story. That's what the race is defined around.
I got the message from Salvitore loud and clear. He thinks he knows it all, and anyone who dares to have a different opinion than he does is clueless in his mind. Whatever.
Maybe you and Salvitore can write a letter to World Athletics to notify them that their 5000m preview was clueless and they should change it to make it all about Almgren. Clearly you guys know more than they do, right?
If we look at it in terms of an improvement curve, Almgren may have improved the most since last year. Almgren has improved nearly 5 seconds over 3000m while the only thing Young has improved is his mile by over two seconds. Grant Fisher ran 4:49.48 over 2000m but otherwise has been off. So all you have to defend yourself is age which isn't always reliable. I'd say Almgren has the most upside here based on the evidence.
After that 3000m, Almgren was a DNF in the 5000m at Xiamen and ran 3:36 yesterday. Not exactly trending up.
I think you are misinterpreting Salvitore. It's about the storylines and intentions, not about who on this board is going to follow who. Almgren has already stated he wants to break 12:40 after a big PB in the 3000m. That's the biggest story. That's what the race is defined around.
I got the message from Salvitore loud and clear. He thinks he knows it all, and anyone who dares to have a different opinion than he does is clueless in his mind. Whatever.
Maybe you and Salvitore can write a letter to World Athletics to notify them that their 5000m preview was clueless and they should change it to make it all about Almgren. Clearly you guys know more than they do, right?
That's not what this is about. Tell me, what have Young and Fisher stated in advance of their goals for this race? I have seen zero interviews or quotes ahead of this race. Meanwhile, after improving by 5 seconds in the 3000m, Almgren has stated that he wants to run sub 12:40 this year. So no matter what, Almgren is likely going to take up the pace and run sub 12:40 pace. That's what the storyline for this race is all about. Whatever World Athletics wants to write on their preview is up to them. Not sure how that is relevant.
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If we look at it in terms of an improvement curve, Almgren may have improved the most since last year. Almgren has improved nearly 5 seconds over 3000m while the only thing Young has improved is his mile by over two seconds. Grant Fisher ran 4:49.48 over 2000m but otherwise has been off. So all you have to defend yourself is age which isn't always reliable. I'd say Almgren has the most upside here based on the evidence.
After that 3000m, Almgren was a DNF in the 5000m at Xiamen and ran 3:36 yesterday. Not exactly trending up.
The 3000m distance is more applicable to the 5000m than the 1500m. His DNF could be a sign of something bad, but he explained in an article that he had a bad day due to training too hard and running through training:
That's not what this is about. Tell me, what have Young and Fisher stated in advance of their goals for this race? I have seen zero interviews or quotes ahead of this race. Meanwhile, after improving by 5 seconds in the 3000m, Almgren has stated that he wants to run sub 12:40 this year. So no matter what, Almgren is likely going to take up the pace and run sub 12:40 pace. That's what the storyline for this race is all about. Whatever World Athletics wants to write on their preview is up to them. Not sure how that is relevant.
Nico said on the Lets Run podcast his goal is to win as many of his DL races as possible. I'm sure Fisher has the same goal.
The storyline for me and probably many others is the stacked field, which is what World Athletics wrote about. There can be more than one storyline. It's not all about Almgren.
That's not what this is about. Tell me, what have Young and Fisher stated in advance of their goals for this race? I have seen zero interviews or quotes ahead of this race. Meanwhile, after improving by 5 seconds in the 3000m, Almgren has stated that he wants to run sub 12:40 this year. So no matter what, Almgren is likely going to take up the pace and run sub 12:40 pace. That's what the storyline for this race is all about. Whatever World Athletics wants to write on their preview is up to them. Not sure how that is relevant.
Nico said on the Lets Run podcast his goal is to win as many of his DL races as possible. I'm sure Fisher has the same goal.
The storyline for me and probably many others is the stacked field, which is what World Athletics wrote about. There can be more than one storyline. It's not all about Almgren.
Wah wahhh! My favorite American athletes aren't being mentioned ;(((
That's not what this is about. Tell me, what have Young and Fisher stated in advance of their goals for this race? I have seen zero interviews or quotes ahead of this race. Meanwhile, after improving by 5 seconds in the 3000m, Almgren has stated that he wants to run sub 12:40 this year. So no matter what, Almgren is likely going to take up the pace and run sub 12:40 pace. That's what the storyline for this race is all about. Whatever World Athletics wants to write on their preview is up to them. Not sure how that is relevant.
Nico said on the Lets Run podcast his goal is to win as many of his DL races as possible. I'm sure Fisher has the same goal.
The storyline for me and probably many others is the stacked field, which is what World Athletics wrote about. There can be more than one storyline. It's not all about Almgren.
Nico's tactics will be shaped by the most important storyline, which is the Almgren aiming for a sub 12:40 5000m.
After that 3000m, Almgren was a DNF in the 5000m at Xiamen and ran 3:36 yesterday. Not exactly trending up.
The 3000m distance is more applicable to the 5000m than the 1500m. His DNF could be a sign of something bad, but he explained in an article that he had a bad day due to training too hard and running through training:
But hey, if you'd like to show how Young and Fisher have improved from last year be my guest.
His 3000m was a big PR for that distance, but it wasn't a higher level performance than his 12:44. Running 7:26 is not enough to convince me that he's in better shape than he was in last summer when he ran 12:44.
No matter what Almgren said about why he failed to finish his last 5000m race, my point stands. He hasn't been trending up.
Nico said on the Lets Run podcast his goal is to win as many of his DL races as possible. I'm sure Fisher has the same goal.
The storyline for me and probably many others is the stacked field, which is what World Athletics wrote about. There can be more than one storyline. It's not all about Almgren.
Wah wahhh! My favorite American athletes aren't being mentioned ;(((
Actually, they are being mentioned, by World Athletics.
"The 5000m features the four fastest men of 2025 – double Olympic medallist Grant Fisher, world 10,000m bronze medallist Andreas Almgren and last year’s Bislett Games top two Nico Young and Biniam Mehary – against world silver medallist Isaac Kimeli, Jacob Krop and Birhanu Balew."
The 3000m distance is more applicable to the 5000m than the 1500m. His DNF could be a sign of something bad, but he explained in an article that he had a bad day due to training too hard and running through training:
But hey, if you'd like to show how Young and Fisher have improved from last year be my guest.
His 3000m was a big PR for that distance, but it wasn't a higher level performance than his 12:44. Running 7:26 is not enough to convince me that he's in better shape than he was in last summer when he ran 12:44.
No matter what Almgren said about why he failed to finish his last 5000m race, my point stands. He hasn't been trending up.
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