You didn't break down and it doesn't look like some kind of disease, it's more of a burnout and loss of motivation. everyone's form falls, it's normal. 37 minutes for 10 km is not the end, it's just that now you don're in a state where you don't have to pressure yourself, it's better to give yourself a very easy start without goals
1. He's not even a 37 min 10k runner. Predicted times on garmin and ther other ilk are notoriously unreliable. If that is psyching you out, train with a timex ironman. Those things will tell anyone from a 33-43 min runner that they are predicted to run 37.
2. I don't know why you would "entertain the notion of races" instead of just enter races. If you end with a "bad" result, so what. I ran my mile pr in a race I dfl'ed - so what. What's the worst that can happen, no one will ask you to join their training group? You don't care about that anyways.
3. Join Club Northwest and go to at least 2 sessions a week. This should be a no brainer - don't know why you wouldn't do this when you struggle with motivation and now pacing I guess.
4. This weekend you are not going to consume incel content Jamin, you are going to read this book instead:
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5. Before watching anything but sports on youtube:
-go to 2 group workouts with club northwest
-read 2 novels of your choosing
-sign up for 2 races - I reccomend the orca half or 8 miler and the san juan island half or cital city half (Olympia)
The other alternative to this course of action is to spend the next decade disliking yourself. My uncle doesn't like himself and didn't like his job - he spent 2 decades waiting to retire and moping, only to go on disability and start living as a shut in shortly thereafter. Do you want to waste your life like that?
Usually in the Spring I at least hold out some hope that I'll whip myself into shape by mid Summer.
This year is different.
I've totally given up.
I'm not even entertaining the idea of running any races.
I'm more out of shape than ever. Strava predicts I'm in 37-minute 10K shape.
I can't get any motivation to do any real workout.
My form is totally screwed up. I probably have some neurodegenerative disease.
I can't tell if you're serious or not about the neurodegenerative thing, Jamin, but if you even suspect it, don't mess around. See a doc ASAP.
That aside, getting stale and "burned out," from anything, is not uncommon. Mix up your routine, do some bike rides if you like to ride bikes, go to the gym or if you have a home gym, use it, swim with the orcas, whatever. Heck, you live in Seattle and are surrounded by water. If you have a kayak, use it. If you don't have a kayak that are plenty of rental options.
On a more serious note, there is way more to life than running. And most people will never sniff 37 minute 10k shape. Do anything to raise your level of fitness and you will see benefits.
Huh, there’s no benefit to be had increasing fitness beyond that 10k time or even well worse than that. You are right that there is way more to life than running.
37 minute 10ks are the worst. A real slap in the face. My best was 36 minutes which I did 4 times, but 37 minutes was like a failure as I had regressed back to 6:00 pace. I could run 20 miles at 6:20 pace but would always struggle to run miles faster than 6:00 pace.
37 minute 10ks are the worst. A real slap in the face. My best was 36 minutes which I did 4 times, but 37 minutes was like a failure as I had regressed back to 6:00 pace. I could run 20 miles at 6:20 pace but would always struggle to run miles faster than 6:00 pace.
Problem was you needed to run more 6 x mile at 5:55, and fewer 20 miles at 6:20 to run sub 37.
37 minute 10ks are the worst. A real slap in the face. My best was 36 minutes which I did 4 times, but 37 minutes was like a failure as I had regressed back to 6:00 pace. I could run 20 miles at 6:20 pace but would always struggle to run miles faster than 6:00 pace.
Problem was you needed to run more 6 x mile at 5:55, and fewer 20 miles at 6:20 to run sub 37.
I did all that. Doing workouts faster than 6:00 was always exhausting. Maybe my base wasn't big enough.
Problem was you needed to run more 6 x mile at 5:55, and fewer 20 miles at 6:20 to run sub 37.
I did all that. Doing workouts faster than 6:00 was always exhausting. Maybe my base wasn't big enough.
Or maybe you weren't doing enough tempo running in your base period to prep for VO2 max work. Workouts should be a little tough most the time since you aren't entering them as fresh as you will race - thats fine - key is just stay on the right side of the red line.
I've found I get my best results following a Lydiard based program. You'll have to look over your logs and see what you could improve, if you think it was mileage, maybe that's it. If you were training for a marathon, probably not that much benefit in doing a lot of 10k specific stuff anyways. Like you prob won't recover from that 20 miler to do a vo2 max workout the same week, but maybe you need some easy 20 mile long runs and some fast repeat sessions. '
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2487659 these workouts are pretty good for any training though they are designed for marathoners, you can just tweek them a little for your distance (eg faster reps for 10k, shorter slightly faster tempos if you aren't racing a marathon)
I did all that. Doing workouts faster than 6:00 was always exhausting. Maybe my base wasn't big enough.
Or maybe you weren't doing enough tempo running in your base period to prep for VO2 max work. Workouts should be a little tough most the time since you aren't entering them as fresh as you will race - thats fine - key is just stay on the right side of the red line.
I've found I get my best results following a Lydiard based program. You'll have to look over your logs and see what you could improve, if you think it was mileage, maybe that's it. If you were training for a marathon, probably not that much benefit in doing a lot of 10k specific stuff anyways. Like you prob won't recover from that 20 miler to do a vo2 max workout the same week, but maybe you need some easy 20 mile long runs and some fast repeat sessions. '
these workouts are pretty good for any training though they are designed for marathoners, you can just tweek them a little for your distance (eg faster reps for 10k, shorter slightly faster tempos if you aren't racing a marathon)
Or maybe you weren't doing enough tempo running in your base period to prep for VO2 max work. Workouts should be a little tough most the time since you aren't entering them as fresh as you will race - thats fine - key is just stay on the right side of the red line.
I've found I get my best results following a Lydiard based program. You'll have to look over your logs and see what you could improve, if you think it was mileage, maybe that's it. If you were training for a marathon, probably not that much benefit in doing a lot of 10k specific stuff anyways. Like you prob won't recover from that 20 miler to do a vo2 max workout the same week, but maybe you need some easy 20 mile long runs and some fast repeat sessions. '
these workouts are pretty good for any training though they are designed for marathoners, you can just tweek them a little for your distance (eg faster reps for 10k, shorter slightly faster tempos if you aren't racing a marathon)
I can attest to the wisdom of what malmo is saying. I did exactly this within the last couple of months and I cannot say what a joy it is!
Golden retriever, a rescue dog.
And yes, she is faster than I am and gets atleast 4 miles of runs in every day, and that's just for starters. It's fun and it has a purpose, for both of us. She loves it, too!
What Malmo said about babe magnet is so true - more often than not people stop to tell me how cute she is (and she is!).
But do consider this from the dog's perspective - are you home enough to avoid having the dog alone for big stretches of a day and can you guarantee she/he will get regular attention throughout the day? It's an enormous responsibility, and I don't really see how a single person who has to go into the office several days each week could do it unless you hire a dog walker on those days, which is always a possibility.
EDIT: if not home enough to guarantee dog gets enough attention and exercise, maybe a small dog would be a better option - one that doesn't need so much exercise. I am not knowledgable about the small dogs, so best to get a professional's opinion on that...
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He doesn’t want to take care of a dog. He likes to travel occasionally and he is generally living a Peter Pan like existence. Maybe a few years from now but currently I don’t think it would be fair to the dog. But it would be a good icebreaker with the ladies as you suggest.
He doesn’t want to take care of a dog. He likes to travel occasionally and he is generally living a Peter Pan like existence. Maybe a few years from now but currently I don’t think it would be fair to the dog. But it would be a good icebreaker with the ladies as you suggest.
Yeah, I think you are right.
And thank you for pointing this out since getting one is taking on a big, persistant, and important responsibility, as I said.
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