There's going to be sooooo many Russian brides available for the incels on this site in the coming years. Tell Mom to make some extra tendies, cause you've got a friend coming over!
Russia has to take no hit at all. They are calling the shots.
Might makes right is such a lame world view.
yes, just because you have the world's biggest military means you decide if Russian speaking regions are Russian or Ukrainian. Send enough weapons and intelligence to expand your hegemony
you know this is how it really is with you, no point pretending
As for your last sentence, Israel's "right" to do that i
Israel has no rights. It doesn't exist. It will never be fully recognized by the states which control the region's destiny.
Deep inside your boomer cocoon, you somehow got too comfortable with the idea that a European colony could be sustained in the Middle East. That's right up there with "I can conquer Russia" on the list of things history has repeatedly proven wrong for centuries.
As for your last sentence, Israel's "right" to do that i
Israel has no rights. It doesn't exist. It will never be fully recognized by the states which control the region's destiny.
Deep inside your boomer cocoon, you somehow got too comfortable with the idea that a European colony could be sustained in the Middle East. That's right up there with "I can conquer Russia" on the list of things history has repeatedly proven wrong for centuries.
"Boomer cocoon"? That's meaningless gibberish. And whether some other states don't recognize it due to religious intolerance doesn't affect its legal standing, or its rights as a sovereign states. There are a lot of sovereign states I don't like, or whose actions I don't like, and that is true of many of Israel's policies. But I'm not afflicted by your delusions about their rights.
Everyone rags on the Germans, Poles, Khazers, Russias, Ukranians for what they've done to Gaza. But it was the US, USR, UK who exiled them to areas of the British Empire lost in WWII. At the time Hitler, etc thought they were semites. Now we all have seen the science and accept it was a mistake. Actually they are Europeans and not Middle Eastern levants, semires. Yet the Pope, King Charles, NATO, EU, Zelensky, Putin have not invited the occupation population back to Europe. No reparations. No land. No return of real estate, art, money stolen by Europe from the ancestors of the illegal occupiers in Palestine. No remorse from Europe at all.
If Europe and US paid reparations to Asia, Africa, Americas for the centuries of rape, therft, and colonization they did then they would have a sliver of credibility. Today Europe and the US has no credibility atall.
PUTIN IS THEE MAN, All Wars should be fought to an unconditional Surrender. I think The saying We have Won by forcing our enemy into an Unconditional Surrender, Sounds so much better Than We are pulling out as all of our military obligations have been met, Which almost sounds like trying to save face. And Also Putin And the Chinese President have said They have Hypersonic Nuclear missiles that the USA can not stop, I want to see if that is true or not, I don't think Any Hypersonic Nuclear missiles can get past our Defense
It's all true. What do you deny? That the elected Ukrainian govt was violently overthrown in 2014? Or that the US had a role in that?
It's also true the US promised not to expand NATO closer to Russia when the USSR was considering disbanding. The West caused this war, not Russia.
Israel has an excuse for killing tens of thousands of kids and stealing all of Gaza do they?
As for your last sentence, Israel's "right" to do that is just as solid as Russia's right to do what they have done and continue to try to do in Ukraine. And since Russia's incursion happened first, it arguably is precedent for people who think like you do.
I don't deny that Ukraine's president was overthrown in 2014. The material you offered in the past shows that the US was aware of the movement and had a favored outcome. That does not show that the US had a role. Governments usually have a preferred outcome in similar turmoil in other countries. That doesn't mean that they took a role.
My recollection is that the cessation of further expansion of NATO was discussed. However, Russia failed to get it included in the final agreements. No such discussions are binding if not incorporated in the agreement. The SU was in the process of dying, and they simply weren't in a strong enough position to negotiate the final deal that Putin wishes they had negotiated.
Baloney. Russia is defending its sovereignty from NATO expansion. US promised no such expansion to them. There was no written agreement between US and Russia in connection with the dissolution of the USSR so of course that aspect was not put in writing. Not that the US/Israel ever abides by any kind of agreement anyway. As we have watched Israel break the current ceasfire agreement in Gaza every single day.
You honestly think the US was not involved in the violent overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014? That's naive. Why was Nualand caught discussing who would be installed as the next leader of Ukraine after the revolt was over? Seen handing out food and aid to those in the insurrection?
Well guess what. Russia said enough was enough when the new Ukraine govt began killing Russian ethnics in Donetsk and they are winning the war big time and call the shots.
Israel is committing an unbelievably horrific and purely evil genocide in Gaza. No moral right, no legal right to do so. Disgusted anyone defends this.
Ukraine - give up all claims to Crimea, shared administration of nuclear power facilities, eliminates neo-Nazi groups within their borders, gets no financial reparations from Moscow, must hold UN monitored national elections within 90 days of treaty signing.
Russia - withdraws to pre-war borders, shuts down pro-Russian militias operating in Ukraine, accepts that Ukraine will be joining NATO and the EU.
Everyone else - UN peacekeeping forces (no NATO troops permitted) will protect a 20km wide DMZ along the Russia/Ukraine/Belarus borders for 8 years. Immediate thawing of Russian financial assets and an end to trade restrictions.
Putin and Zelenskyy will be effectively retired from political power in the wake of such a deal since both have to make big sacrifices. That should help calm things down and provide a fresh start.
Ukraine - give up all claims to Crimea, shared administration of nuclear power facilities, eliminates neo-Nazi groups within their borders, gets no financial reparations from Moscow, must hold UN monitored national elections within 90 days of treaty signing.
Russia - withdraws to pre-war borders, shuts down pro-Russian militias operating in Ukraine, accepts that Ukraine will be joining NATO and the EU.
Everyone else - UN peacekeeping forces (no NATO troops permitted) will protect a 20km wide DMZ along the Russia/Ukraine/Belarus borders for 8 years. Immediate thawing of Russian financial assets and an end to trade restrictions.
Putin and Zelenskyy will be effectively retired from political power in the wake of such a deal since both have to make big sacrifices. That should help calm things down and provide a fresh start.
Erm, where's the hit to Russia in this plan?
withdraws to pre-war borders, shuts down pro-Russian militias operating in Ukraine, accepts that Ukraine will be joining NATO and the EU. None of which Russia will accept
withdraws to pre-war borders, shuts down pro-Russian militias operating in Ukraine, accepts that Ukraine will be joining NATO and the EU. None of which Russia will accept
Withdrawal to pre-war borders is not a hit. Neither is closing down the people that initiated the war. These are basic parts of a peace plan, not a loss.
Accepting Ukraine joins NATO and the EU? That is not a punishment either, it's up to Ukraine what military and trade alliances it joins.
withdraws to pre-war borders, shuts down pro-Russian militias operating in Ukraine, accepts that Ukraine will be joining NATO and the EU. None of which Russia will accept
Withdrawal to pre-war borders is not a hit. Neither is closing down the people that initiated the war. These are basic parts of a peace plan, not a loss.
Accepting Ukraine joins NATO and the EU? That is not a punishment either, it's up to Ukraine what military and trade alliances it joins.
Withdrawal to pre-war borders is not a hit. Of course it is. They have taken back a lot of land populated by Russian ethnics and will not give it back.
Nor would they ever accept Ukraine in NATO. It is a massive security risk.
US/West gambled with Ukrainian lives to weaken Russia and lost the bet
As for your last sentence, Israel's "right" to do that i
Israel has no rights. It doesn't exist. It will never be fully recognized by the states which control the region's destiny.
Deep inside your boomer cocoon, you somehow got too comfortable with the idea that a European colony could be sustained in the Middle East. That's right up there with "I can conquer Russia" on the list of things history has repeatedly proven wrong for centuries.
As for your last sentence, Israel's "right" to do that is just as solid as Russia's right to do what they have done and continue to try to do in Ukraine. And since Russia's incursion happened first, it arguably is precedent for people who think like you do.
I don't deny that Ukraine's president was overthrown in 2014. The material you offered in the past shows that the US was aware of the movement and had a favored outcome. That does not show that the US had a role. Governments usually have a preferred outcome in similar turmoil in other countries. That doesn't mean that they took a role.
My recollection is that the cessation of further expansion of NATO was discussed. However, Russia failed to get it included in the final agreements. No such discussions are binding if not incorporated in the agreement. The SU was in the process of dying, and they simply weren't in a strong enough position to negotiate the final deal that Putin wishes they had negotiated.
Baloney. Russia is defending its sovereignty from NATO expansion. US promised no such expansion to them. There was no written agreement between US and Russia in connection with the dissolution of the USSR so of course that aspect was not put in writing. Not that the US/Israel ever abides by any kind of agreement anyway. As we have watched Israel break the current ceasfire agreement in Gaza every single day.
You honestly think the US was not involved in the violent overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014? That's naive. Why was Nualand caught discussing who would be installed as the next leader of Ukraine after the revolt was over? Seen handing out food and aid to those in the insurrection?
Well guess what. Russia said enough was enough when the new Ukraine govt began killing Russian ethnics in Donetsk and they are winning the war big time and call the shots.
Israel is committing an unbelievably horrific and purely evil genocide in Gaza. No moral right, no legal right to do so. Disgusted anyone defends this.
Invading another country is not "defending its [own] sovereignty". It is an act of aggression violating another country's sovereignty. Ukraine wasn't in NATO and, given NATO's rules for admission, was not likely to be admitted any time soon. If Putin has an issue with NATO, take it up with NATO. Moreover, in light of Russia's repeated actions against its neighbors' sovereignty, it is absurd to justify its invasion of Ukraine on that basis.
As for Nualand, someone in her position should be expected to know what is happening on the ground and have an idea where it is going. If you could give truth serum to the Embassy staff at all of the outposts of the US, UK, Russia, Chinese, and other major countries they could tell you what movements they see likely in the regions where they are posted and what the likely outcomes are. And that doesn't mean that they are pulling the strings. It is their job to have sources and know what is happening. They may have preferred outcomes for the future, but that doesn't make them responsible and doesn't make them bad actors.
With respect to the troubles in Eastern Ukraine, it is clear that Russia was a co-instigator, devoid of 'clean hands'.
I have been clear that I do not support Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. But it takes some significant brand of blindness to complain about Israel buy support Russia's actions in Ukraine.
Baloney. Russia is defending its sovereignty from NATO expansion. US promised no such expansion to them. There was no written agreement between US and Russia in connection with the dissolution of the USSR so of course that aspect was not put in writing. Not that the US/Israel ever abides by any kind of agreement anyway. As we have watched Israel break the current ceasfire agreement in Gaza every single day.
You honestly think the US was not involved in the violent overthrow of the elected Ukraine govt in 2014? That's naive. Why was Nualand caught discussing who would be installed as the next leader of Ukraine after the revolt was over? Seen handing out food and aid to those in the insurrection?
Well guess what. Russia said enough was enough when the new Ukraine govt began killing Russian ethnics in Donetsk and they are winning the war big time and call the shots.
Israel is committing an unbelievably horrific and purely evil genocide in Gaza. No moral right, no legal right to do so. Disgusted anyone defends this.
Invading another country is not "defending its [own] sovereignty". It is an act of aggression violating another country's sovereignty. Ukraine wasn't in NATO and, given NATO's rules for admission, was not likely to be admitted any time soon. If Putin has an issue with NATO, take it up with NATO. Moreover, in light of Russia's repeated actions against its neighbors' sovereignty, it is absurd to justify its invasion of Ukraine on that basis.
As for Nualand, someone in her position should be expected to know what is happening on the ground and have an idea where it is going. If you could give truth serum to the Embassy staff at all of the outposts of the US, UK, Russia, Chinese, and other major countries they could tell you what movements they see likely in the regions where they are posted and what the likely outcomes are. And that doesn't mean that they are pulling the strings. It is their job to have sources and know what is happening. They may have preferred outcomes for the future, but that doesn't make them responsible and doesn't make them bad actors.
With respect to the troubles in Eastern Ukraine, it is clear that Russia was a co-instigator, devoid of 'clean hands'.
I have been clear that I do not support Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. But it takes some significant brand of blindness to complain about Israel buy support Russia's actions in Ukraine.
Like talking to a wall.
The info I post and arguments I make aren not aimed at you. Not aimed at those who buy into the officials western narrative and repeat it as their own thoughts. It is for those who do not yet have an opinion.
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