Rupp DNQ? Let's hear from the experts

two weeks ago in Provo wrote:

I heard from someone who was at the track in Provo that after Rupp ran what appeared to be an easy qualifying effort in the regional 5000, he ran three X 1600m (something like 4:40, 4:38, 4:36). Rupp started the workout 10-15 minutes after the conclusion of the race. The track was empty as the men's 5000 was the last event. Keep in mind Provo is in the 4500 ft range for alititude.

Keep in mind that that workout is an NCAA violation! Can't practice after a competition.

Duder wrote:

Keep in mind that that workout is an NCAA violation! Can't practice after a competition.

You can't stop a kid from going for a run. If he wants to go for a 3 mile cooldown, how is that any different than 3 x 1600?

Kiplagat - 25 years old

Kangogo - 26 years old

Songok - No age reported?

Solinksy - 21 years old...

I bet if Solinsky was able to compete on the college level four years from now no one would be even close...it doesn't seem quite fair...

Why put in a big surge just over 1/3 into a qualifying race? Something doesn't seem right here?

only three in the top ten are from the usa. geez.

Who am I, but the thing is, didn't Salazar basically burn himself out at a very young age with too intensive training that caused depression/hormonal imbalances/mitochondrial myopathy? Seems like Rupp is doing too much of this interval-type stuff after racing. He may have been very good as a teenager, but the body can only handle so much before it cracks. A lot of endurance athletes end up getting chronic fatigue syndrome, or thyroid issues, or cancer, or lots of other undesirable illnesses. The body has its limits, and when you combine that with the typical college kid's junk-food diet, it's bound to crack.

I still think Rupp should have turned pro after is 28:15 10k last spring. This way he would not have to do so much racing in the colliegate system and just focus on the next level and racing in Europe. What does everyone else think? He could have moved to Portland and trained with guys like Goucher with Salazar as his coach.

And forgot Mutanya - 24 years old.

why is it that everyone makes the age arguement against d2, d3, and naia runners when the bulk of dominant d1 runners are older?

What's the deal with age, who cares? He's a 13:37 and 28:15 guy in a relatively soft field. Other than Solinsky, Boit, Kaborsi, and maybe one or two other guys, no one is in his class. This is a sad effort from someone who Salazar said a few weeks ago was in shape to better his 5k pr at nationals if the race went right. Something is seriously wrong with him and I hope they figure it out before it's too late.

I think that's the main problem with bringing in overseas talent to run collegiately - many of them tend to be older. There are excepttions like Boit and Cheseret who are seniors and only 22, and it's definitely a positive that America's best runner such as Solinski get to race against stellar competition. But it's also clearly not a level playing field when you have guys like Mutanya, Kangogo, Maiyo (who was born in the 70s for God's sake), and Kiplagat who are three years older than your average senior.

I'd like to see a new rule that once a athlete turns 24, or at least 25, he or she is no longer eligible. I'm sure a lot of people would complain about opportunities and what about redshirts and so on and so forth. But let's face it, if you're 25 you don't belong racing in college. Go make money on the roads. I've been out of college for two years now and I still haven't turned 23 - most of my class turned 24 sometime in the last few months. None of them should still be racing at the NCAA level.

25 is the age limit. everyone knows that.

sheesh wrote:

only three in the top ten are from the usa. geez.

Is Hakon DeVries an "All American" with his 19th place 14:09 finish? He appears to be the #8 American finisher.

Well, the rule really isn't that 25 is the age limit. The rule is that an athlete uses a season of eligibility for each season in which he competes after turning 21 years old.

So, an athlete could turn 21, miss a season, then compete for the first time at 22. Now, once he is at university, he may also redhirt a year, so his second year of competition might not occur until he is 24. Obviously then he could also compete at age 25 and 26 as well, as he would still have 2 years eligibility left.

was there wrote:

about 2000m into the race he suddenly surged and dropped like a 63. He continued that pace for one more lap (64-65) but the group started to catch him again. On the last 1200m he started to fade, and once the pack started a longer kick (800m), he dropped back more and more.

From the Register-Guard:

UO sophomore Galen Rupp, who has struggled with sickness and a thyroid condition this season, made a bold move in the middle of the race but ultimately paid the price as he faded badly on the final two laps and failed to reach the final with a ninth-place finish in his semifinal heat.

"I didn't feel good from the start of the race," said Rupp, who clocked 14 minutes, 14.02 seconds. "My legs felt heavy, like bricks."

That overrated Bumbalough guy bombed out also.

Does the SO next to his name stand for "Sell Out?"

Bob XX wrote:

sheesh wrote:

only three in the top ten are from the usa. geez.

Is Hakon DeVries an "All American" with his 19th place 14:09 finish? He appears to be the #8 American finisher.

That's the way it looks, same thing happened last year in the steeple, one guy who didn't make the final made All American because the whole race was foreigners. Last year I beleive the 5k went back to 12th place, so there's a few more foreigners this year in the 5k.