Why would you say running almost 7:22? How about tell it like it is? He ran 7:23. I've almost run 7:22 as well, except my almost is about 90 seconds away.
Title. Jumps from 3:30 to 3:27 and now is running almost 7:22 after being a 7:30 guy. Is this supposed to be believable?
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Yes I believe him and Josh Hoey are as clean as any athlete competing at such a high level. So until proven guilty they are not using performance enhancing drugs and yes they have great hygiene (so we are clear on both areas) 😳.
Yes I believe him and Josh Hoey are as clean as any athlete competing at such a high level. So until proven guilty they are not using performance enhancing drugs and yes they have great hygiene (so we are clear on both areas) 😳.
Title. Jumps from 3:30 to 3:27 and now is running almost 7:22 after being a 7:30 guy. Is this supposed to be believable?
Pretty sure Hocker, Fisher, Nguse, Hoey, et al are clean. 99.9% certain.
Have you seen YouTube videos about Hocker, training at Virginia Tech? He's like a lab rat, ingesting a ton of supplements every day, all legal, obviously, he also mentions in the videos that he's constantly tested. Just saying.
I see now posters are saying that until proven guilty they are innocent. I agree totally!!! but I wish the same consideration was given to Africans as well.
For years we've heard El G and Komen were dirty but now their so-called dirty records are broken, and the people running them are innocent.
Personally, I do think Grant and Cole are clean along with Yared and Hoey. I just wish the same consideration was equally given to the Africans. Not all cheat and shouldn't be swept with a broad brush.
Pretty sure Hocker, Fisher, Nguse, Hoey, et al are clean. 99.9% certain.
Have you seen YouTube videos about Hocker, training at Virginia Tech? He's like a lab rat, ingesting a ton of supplements every day, all legal, obviously, he also mentions in the videos that he's constantly tested. Just saying.
Don't they all say that?
USADA says (including in-competition):
2020: 0, 2021: 2; 2022: 8; 2023: 9; 2024: 9.
Those numbers are laughable. And that is before we question whether USADA would bust one of their own, given their history on the matter.
Title. Jumps from 3:30 to 3:27 and now is running almost 7:22 after being a 7:30 guy. Is this supposed to be believable?
Pretty sure Hocker, Fisher, Nguse, Hoey, et al are clean. 99.9% certain.
Have you seen YouTube videos about Hocker, training at Virginia Tech? He's like a lab rat, ingesting a ton of supplements every day, all legal, obviously, he also mentions in the videos that he's constantly tested. Just saying.
As long as he doesn't touch those burritos Houlihan was eating. 😉
Title. Jumps from 3:30 to 3:27 and now is running almost 7:22 after being a 7:30 guy. Is this supposed to be believable?
He ran 3:50 mile at barely 19 years of age. He’s still what 22? The problem is this new super shoes era distorts things, including misinforming your own already bad takes.
Within a year? Who else has progressed like that? Seems really suspicious, no trolling.
Jakob went from 7:51 to 7:27 in one year. Then from 7:23 to 7:17 in one year.
But we saw through his 1500m that he progressed steadily every year. Hocker went from struggling to close at 3:30 pace to closing very fast at 3:27 pace? A few months of consistent training doesn’t make you improve that much…sorry.
Title. Jumps from 3:30 to 3:27 and now is running almost 7:22 after being a 7:30 guy. Is this supposed to be believable?
You have to remember in 2024 he finally was able to get a whole training block healthy and has remained healthy, so a lot of the improvement can be attributed to that. It’s not like he was he was a scrub before, he was still 6th in Tokyo and top 10 in the 2023 World Championships. The extra strength gained from a healthy training block could be the best explanation for why he’s a phenom now.
Having said that, he may still be juiced. It’s likely that almost everybody at the pro level is juiced and it’s easier than we realize to avoid positive tests. I’m sure he was juiced since the NCAA. It’s a wash if everyone does it.
Mo Katir’s rapid improvement was far more suspicious. He went from being barely a sub 14 guy to running 12:50 in less than a year. Everyone could see the writing on the wall. Cole’s success has been far more linear when you account for injuries. He was already an NCAA champ and ran fairly well, far better than Katir. The jump is more believable.
Hocker in 2023 consistently placed 5th to 12th in all of his international races, struggling to close fast in decently paced races (3:30-3:33). I don’t buy that with a healthy training block he somehow is able to close in 39 seconds for a 3:27 or improve dramatically from a 7:30 3000m to 7:23.
Title. Jumps from 3:30 to 3:27 and now is running almost 7:22 after being a 7:30 guy. Is this supposed to be believable?
He ran 3:50 mile at barely 19 years of age. He’s still what 22? The problem is this new super shoes era distorts things, including misinforming your own already bad takes.
Yes, but the more recent results speak for themselves. Hocker improved from struggling to close in 3:30-3:33 races to now closing really fast in 3:27 races. He also closed a 7:22 3000m in a pretty quick finish as well. That was when a year after he was struggling to close in about a 7:30 equivalent. No way a block of training explains that. What does?
I see now posters are saying that until proven guilty they are innocent. I agree totally!!! but I wish the same consideration was given to Africans as well.
For years we've heard El G and Komen were dirty but now their so-called dirty records are broken, and the people running them are innocent.
Personally, I do think Grant and Cole are clean along with Yared and Hoey. I just wish the same consideration was equally given to the Africans. Not all cheat and shouldn't be swept with a broad brush.
If there was a drug available right now that there was no effective testing for, that one study found improved 3K times by 6%, and if Wada introduced a test for it this year, and then Nuguse and Fisher's WRs lasted for another 20 years with only a huge leap forward in shoe and track technology enabling them to finally be approached or bettered, and there were 400 US distance running doping busts in those 20 years, then yeah, anybody with an IQ in double digits would be fairly sure they doped.
I'd bet money that you're the same turd who insulted me in the Sam Ruthe thread.