• fastdownunder
      • 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/11/2017 4:12AM
      • fastdownunder
      • Sensational time in Canberra tonight as 15 year old Keely Small runs 2:01:46!
    • Advanced Coach
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/11/2017 7:09AM - in reply to fastdownunder
      • Advanced Coach
      • Yeah! Now Aussies can have their own Laura Muir! But Australian female athletes aren't usually wimps. Sally Pearson comes to mind.
    • It was like that before NCAAs
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/11/2017 10:17AM - in reply to fastdownunder
      • It was like that before NCAAs
      • Crazy she actually look like she's 15. I was expecting something else.
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      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 4:50AM - in reply to
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      • Seriously offensive. She doesn't look masculine at all. I've watched her run since she was 10 - when surprisingly enough she looked like a little girl.

        Suck it up boys, she's better than you. No need to get nasty.
    • Subway Surfers Addiction
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 6:15PM - in reply to It was like that before NCAAs
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      • It was like that before NCAAs wrote:
        Crazy she actually look like she's 15. I was expecting something else.
        Mate that is fast for a 15 year old girl. Mind you I saw a 16/17 year old girl run 1:17 for the half once and never improved, apparently triathlon persuaded her to switch and she just went backwards.
    • Subway Surfers Addiction
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 6:16PM - in reply to goaussierunners
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      • goaussierunners wrote:
        In the same meet 12th grader runs 5k in 14:16
        Who was that?
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      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 6:38PM - in reply to Subway Surfers Addiction
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      • Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
        It was like that before NCAAs wrote:
        Crazy she actually look like she's 15. I was expecting something else.
        Mate that is fast for a 15 year old girl. .
        OK so a bit of background. Keely Small has been a cross country phenom since she was younger - like 9-10. Top 2 at nationals - there was a Sydney girl she always tussled with. She is from Canberra, and the story goes that she was talent spotted when younger and has been training at the Australian Institute of Sport since about 10.

        I can't say what sort of mileage she's been on since young, but the 800 times are a surprise. I'd have expected her to be more of a 1500-3km runner.

        Even if she has been training more like an adult, I can't see why her times won't continue to drop. I'm sure she can improve her 400 time, for example. In fact, to drop her 800 time, that's what she would need to focus on. Her 400 to 800 conversion is very good.

        In that 2.01 race on the weekend, Keely knocked off the National senior champion. She also knocked 0.3 off the National U18 record. It was held be Georgie Clarke, who still holds the Australian U16 record - 2.02.49 as a 14yo. Georgie never got any better though - suffered years of injuries after her phenomenal times at 14-16. She ran a 4.06 1500 when aged 15.
    • Subway Surfers Addiction
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 7:10PM - in reply to Karma Police
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      • Karma Police wrote:
        Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
        It was like that before NCAAs wrote:
        Crazy she actually look like she's 15. I was expecting something else.
        Mate that is fast for a 15 year old girl. .
        OK so a bit of background. Keely Small has been a cross country phenom since she was younger - like 9-10. Top 2 at nationals - there was a Sydney girl she always tussled with. She is from Canberra, and the story goes that she was talent spotted when younger and has been training at the Australian Institute of Sport since about 10.

        I can't say what sort of mileage she's been on since young, but the 800 times are a surprise. I'd have expected her to be more of a 1500-3km runner.

        Even if she has been training more like an adult, I can't see why her times won't continue to drop. I'm sure she can improve her 400 time, for example. In fact, to drop her 800 time, that's what she would need to focus on. Her 400 to 800 conversion is very good.

        In that 2.01 race on the weekend, Keely knocked off the National senior champion. She also knocked 0.3 off the National U18 record. It was held be Georgie Clarke, who still holds the Australian U16 record - 2.02.49 as a 14yo. Georgie never got any better though - suffered years of injuries after her phenomenal times at 14-16. She ran a 4.06 1500 when aged 15.
        Interesting, there are the odd white/European girls that run phenomenally as teenagers but then they bulk-up @ circa 18-19. I hope not in this case.
    • Narnia bacon plate
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 8:11PM - in reply to fastdownunder
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      • Can someone name me a USA teen phenom female distance runner who went on to become an international star? Seems like if you are really good as a teen you are doooooomed.

        I know it's different with sprinters, but Suzy favor is the only one I can think of...that's probably because I knew about her because I lived in Wisconsin. She wasn't running close to he times these recent ladies are though. There's so many stars who go on to fizzle.
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      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 8:31PM - in reply to Narnia bacon plate
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      • Narnia bacon plate wrote:
        Can someone name me a USA teen phenom female distance runner who went on to become an international star? Seems like if you are really good as a teen you are doooooomed.

        I know it's different with sprinters, but Suzy favor is the only one I can think of...that's probably because I knew about her because I lived in Wisconsin. She wasn't running close to he times these recent ladies are though. There's so many stars who go on to fizzle.
        Mary Decker, Kim Gallagher, Lynn Jennings.
    • Triathlete3773
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 8:40PM - in reply to Narnia bacon plate
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      • Keely has posted excellent 400m times this season so we knew she would go well in the 800m - but not this fast.
        Same age group is Melany Smart (WA) just ran 9:17 3km. Both are running 1500m at nationals.
    • It was like that before NCAAs
      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 9:10PM - in reply to Subway Surfers Addiction
      • It was like that before NCAAs
      • Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
        It was like that before NCAAs wrote:
        Crazy she actually look like she's 15. I was expecting something else.
        Mate that is fast for a 15 year old girl. Mind you I saw a 16/17 year old girl run 1:17 for the half once and never improved, apparently triathlon persuaded her to switch and she just went backwards.
        Yes I know that's fast for her age, that's why I was surprised she didn't LOOK like a 20 year old.
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      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 9:43PM - in reply to no-fizzle list
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      • no-fizzle list wrote:
        Narnia bacon plate wrote:
        Can someone name me a USA teen phenom female distance runner who went on to become an international star? Seems like if you are really good as a teen you are doooooomed.

        I know it's different with sprinters, but Suzy favor is the only one I can think of...that's probably because I knew about her because I lived in Wisconsin. She wasn't running close to he times these recent ladies are though. There's so many stars who go on to fizzle.
        Mary Decker, Kim Gallagher, Lynn Jennings.
        Ajee Wilson

        Good grief what a stupid supposition.

        The fact is there are few that become "international stars" from any background. Being a teen phenom gives you an immensely greater chance than some rando who was not a teen phenom. That is a fact.

        However that does not mean all teen phenoms become stars.
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      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 10:15PM - in reply to Triathlete3773
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      • Triathlete3773 wrote:
        Keely has posted excellent 400m times this season so we knew she would go well in the 800m - but not this fast.
        Same age group is Melany Smart (WA) just ran 9:17 3km. Both are running 1500m at nationals.
        54.9.

        I wouldn't call that excellent (not compared to the 800 time), but it's very good. But it doesn't leave a lot of room for a drop in the 800. The 80 time is 2.21 times the 400 time. That conversion is at elite man level (better than Rudisha though he's more of a speed 800 runner).

        If she's going to focus longer term on the 800, she needs the right sprint and strength work to get her 400 time down further. If she's focusing more on 1500 longer term, then the 400 speed is enough.
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      • RE: 15 year old Aussie girl runs 2:01:46! 3/12/2017 10:45PM - in reply to fastdownunder
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      • I know, how 'bout we put a bunch of pressure on her, drool all over her and then when she runs a 2:05 say she's washed up and her coach overtrained her.