You do realize that Engels was about to quit when he left N.C. State and hadn't done anything in 2.5 years? And Vanhoy led Domanic to a 3:54 mile this summer as well as dropping Wallings 5k PR 30 seconds to 13:31? Not any coach could do that... Not saying vanhoy is the greatest ever, but you have to produce even when you're given good opportunities
the real Macoy? wrote:THE REAL VANHOY wrote:Check the credentials of those runners he either inherited or poached from other schools. Anyone with a computer and YouTube could have coached those guys: Erb was the #1 runner on a Syracuse team that won the NCAA XC title the year after he left. Engels ran 4:03-8:50+ in high school. Tobin ran 3:45 in high school. Domanic and Gilley both under 8:57 and 4:07 in high school. Daniel Bulmer 3:45 and 14:18. Wes Gallagher 4:02 indoor + 14:02. Ryan Manahan 1:47 and 3:58. Ryan Walling 3:45, 29:06, 14:01.
I don't think anybody can argue Vanhoy inherited talent. What people are not giving him credit for is how he coached that talent into being a contender. There are a few big time programs that get a lot of talent every year that struggle to get a top 5 CC finish. What his athletes have done on the track is even more impressive. Question is can he keep it going?
McRaven... give me a break would not know what to do with that talent.
Vanhoy doing the right thing sticking at Ole Miss making good money and getting plenty of support and experience from his fellow coaches.
ALL of this done before stepping one foot on the Univ. of Ole Miss campus.