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iHateSKINS wrote:
LOL. Jaimie Fullofshit refers to those who have busted his employee and his athlete as trolls.

TAKE DOWN SKINS!

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skyrefuge wrote:
Here are the Strava links to those two runs. I'm guessing the second one will stop working in the near future:

https://www.strava.com/activities/617260093
https://www.strava.com/activities/617401996

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Stravaman wrote:

Tracking MarathonMan wrote:

Stravaman wrote:
This site allows you do download the strava data as a CRS (if you don't have premium)

http://strava-tools.raceshape.com/vpu/

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This trick worked quite nicely for me, and the .CRS file I downloaded includes trackpoint data with timestamps. Unfortunately I only pulled one leg, the one which used to be at https://www.strava.com/activities/617306643.

Did others pull any of these legs as CRS files before they were deleted? The one I have has some definite anomalies but others seem like they were even more clear cut.

Not up to date reading yet, but I have all of them, I think. I'll upload soon.

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team1.kml is FB illiterate wrote:
Scrubbing comments and I assume blocking people. I can no longer post.

I used to be able to comment on the photos and the posts on MarathonManUK. Now I can only view comments. Does that mean I'm blocked? I guess publicly asking for data on the TomTom screenshot images was cause enough to get me blocked. How does that work? I never received any notification or email from FB about getting blocked.

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Stravaman wrote:

Tracking MarathonMan wrote:

Stravaman wrote:
This site allows you do download the strava data as a CRS (if you don't have premium)

http://strava-tools.raceshape.com/vpu/

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This trick worked quite nicely for me, and the .CRS file I downloaded includes trackpoint data with timestamps. Unfortunately I only pulled one leg, the one which used to be at https://www.strava.com/activities/617306643.

Did others pull any of these legs as CRS files before they were deleted? The one I have has some definite anomalies but others seem like they were even more clear cut.

Not up to date reading yet, but I have all of them, I think. I'll upload soon.

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skyrefuge wrote:

HobbyJ wrote:One of these 6 is not like the others: http://imgur.com/7HMxMpt

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Yeah, and again, it's the pattern of the run even moreso than the pace that gives it away.

Except for the very first run on the very first day, where he appears to have run about 13 miles straight from the beach without taking a walking break, I can't find a segment *anywhere* (that seems legit) where he went more than two miles without a walk break.

But in that anomalous GPX, he suddenly did 8.1 miles without a single walk break, and his running pace was way faster than his normal "run" pace too.

Here is a comparison between the two:

http://imgur.com/a/obrhj

First image is what almost all of his actual runs look like: a square-wave pattern alternating between running (the top of the wave, 8-9min/mile) and walking (the bottom of the wave, 15-20min/mile). Completely believable from everything we know about his running abilities/style.

Then the second image shows him going 8.1 miles without ever dipping below 7:34/mi.

In the first image, he drops to walking pace 13 TIMES within the first 8.1 miles. And that was on the second day, when he should have still been relatively fresh, and a mile lower in elevation.

Here are the Strava links to those two runs. I'm guessing the second one will stop working in the near future:

https://www.strava.com/activities/617260093
https://www.strava.com/activities/617401996

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team1.kml wrote:
It will be interesting to see how they handle the majority of data which is missing (now that Joanna's account has been scrubbed, not including the Emporia and Laughlin segments which didn't show up in either place)...

This could be time consuming, but it would be helpful to link the TomTom tracks to the Strava tracks (both the ones that still exist (hopefully someone has been screenshotting those since they may disappear too)) and the ones that have been deleted.

We still have the tracker data which shows clearly when he was in the RV in my opinion. They are pretty much anything that goes back-to-back-to-back at 5-7 minutes per mile in the middle of the night. He was probably doing it during the day, too, in remote places.

One thing we don't have is the hand-written logs that RY bragged about in his video. Who were his witnesses? We could pretty readily associate the witnesses with the different tracks and identify people who could have been in collusion. Pipe dream, but if we get that data, that will be a simple task. Maybe someone who still gets correspondence from RY can ask for those as well.

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HobbyJ wrote:

skyrefuge wrote:
Here are the Strava links to those two runs. I'm guessing the second one will stop working in the near future:

https://www.strava.com/activities/617260093
https://www.strava.com/activities/617401996

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Deleted. Screen shot still here: http://imgur.com/tcB4LXF

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1776 wrote:
I love that Lindley dude. Brutal but effective.
I think RY can't block him, because they know each other in real life.

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Investigator wrote:

team1.kml wrote:
It will be interesting to see how they handle the majority of data which is missing (now that Joanna's account has been scrubbed, not including the Emporia and Laughlin segments which didn't show up in either place)...

This could be time consuming, but it would be helpful to link the TomTom tracks to the Strava tracks (both the ones that still exist (hopefully someone has been screenshotting those since they may disappear too)) and the ones that have been deleted.

We still have the tracker data which shows clearly when he was in the RV in my opinion. They are pretty much anything that goes back-to-back-to-back at 5-7 minutes per mile in the middle of the night. He was probably doing it during the day, too, in remote places.

One thing we don't have is the hand-written logs that RY bragged about in his video. Who were his witnesses? We could pretty readily associate the witnesses with the different tracks and identify people who could have been in collusion. Pipe dream, but if we get that data, that will be a simple task. Maybe someone who still gets correspondence from RY can ask for those as well.

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The Strava version of the run from the broken down RV:

https://www.strava.com/activities/617391631

12:28 pace, shorter than the TomTom screenshot:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-k5Fk...8_clip.jpg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Khk1E4i2FS8/V2WzHEoVCqI/AAAAAAAAHoA/yOOrOUpFl2QEr27fQ_Sc2UvtRa39pyHKQCK4B/s640/run_from_RV.jpg

So he drops 2 min/mile is a mile, and he cropped the Strava run.
3.6 miles in 44min vs. 4.6 miles in 48 minutes. Do the math. He got in a car and forgot to shut it off...

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Investigator wrote:
Guys I've mentioned this a few times, listen, Strava show MOVING time, you can't use it to determine his breaks.

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Investigator wrote:
Guys I've mentioned this a few times, listen, Strava show MOVING time, you can't use it to determine his breaks.

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skyrefuge wrote:

Investigator wrote:
Guys I've mentioned this a few times, listen, Strava show MOVING time, you can't use it to determine his breaks.

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So what's your point? I wasn't using the Strava data to determine his breaks, and I don't know any reason why we should really care about his breaks. That's not where the interesting information is. And as noobrunner said, it's pretty clear from all the tracks that when he *actually* stops to take a break, he stopped his watch and started a new track when he began moving again.