Fantastic - thanks. I didn't think to check beyond the ITU site.
londoncalling wrote:Racergirl wrote:https://www.athlinks.com/Events/32396/Courses/48236/?search=young
He has no profile on the ITU athlete listing. I can't trace him on any of the Sater results lists - do you have a copy of your own results sheets by any chance, showing his name?
Do you know how the Ibiza race was called?
londoncalling wrote:
https://www.athlinks.com/Events/32396/Courses/48236/?search=young
Nice comparison to Joe Fejes.
team1.kml wrote:team1.kml wrote:for context, compare to http://imgur.com/OUrZJhv.png
Dunno if this has been done yet, but the Fejes pace frequency chart had me wondering what RY's looks like. This is the frequency of paces based on the tracker data from 5/13 to 6/9*. Sorry, I haven't incorporated the updated data for post-Kansas. Life has been busy.
http://i.imgur.com/CSb0dHK.png
* Since we don't actually have mile-by-mile splits, I just took the average pace for a section (such as 7:24 for 1.35) and binned them into the 7:xx bin and added the mileage. For example, for a 1.8 mile section at 7:35 pace and a 2.2 section at 7:00 pace would be 4.0 miles in the 7:xx bin.
?? Don't know what question you are answering. You didn't miss anything. You did a great job. I was only asking what the date range of the data source was for your charts for clarification. You answered below. Thanks!
team1.kml wrote:
the team1.kml data as posted on the second spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtGrPEckX8y-2-zAFwUgzqCo4HYwUctZNOKDLbYD4Vk/edit#gid=471313666
The worksheet is team1_segs_az -- I exported the KML into a postgis database, made some calculations (distance, azimuth), and exported it to csv to get here. Did I miss something?
Also, we should probably get the two data sources merged. Hoping that the ulister doing the 3-minute tracker has a complete set.
What your going to find is that these individuals that were supposedly testifying towards Rob's ability and achievements will all start slithering off into the weeds never to be found again. Either that or it will be discovered that these individuals did not exist in the first place and that is why there are no names.
Person of Scientific Interest wrote:
The Telegraph:
"From the outset, Rob has had a top team of marathon, triathlon and Olympic medical experts looking after him. All have found Rob’s powers of recovery to be astonishing and have dubbed him a person of scientific interest. We are all unequivocally confident that he will achieve his goals."
I had been looking details about the backtracking distance, distance across Emporia, etc., but I hadn't got around to matching it with the RV tracker data. I am in the process of matching TomTom data to tracker data. (Initial data looks like Rob might have been putting in some miles while the RV tracker was off fwiw).
filmtimes wrote:Asher Delmott wrote:This was posted to the UL in reference to that 35mi tomtom track on 6/4:
I noticed the GPS data shows a 35 mi run starting at 10:10pm (which would include Emporia and the Lebo incident), and the next run starts around 3:37am (getting ready for the film crew at 4:00am?).
The blog also talks about not getting much rest because of the film crew. Maybe that was a good excuse to ride in the RV that night.
blog: http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk...s-anymore/
"I took the 35mi one as the valid track for RY himself, but after looking at it closer I am doubting the legitimacy of that. Here's how I see it from viewing the RV and the RY gps data:
RY's TOMTOM gps: 35.18mi from 10:10CT to 3:37CT
RV Onlinetracker gps: 38.56mi from 10:02CT to 3:33CT (includes some backtracking in the middle)
Where it gets interesting is that the backtracking distance in the RV tracker adds up to 6 miles.
Subtract the 6 miles of back and forth (makes 12 miles) from the RV's total distance of 38.56 to find the net distance in that time frame is 26.75mi. Putting the Start and End coordinates into Google maps shows that the *REAL* distance on roads is indeed 26.4mi, which matches perfectly
So the RY TOMTOM GPS has to be in the van for at least *some* of that stretch in order to get the extra mileage - basically proving that their TomTom data is worthless.
The second TOMTOM track started at 10:22CT and goes 8.15mi in 1:32... coincidentally it ends EXACTLY where the backtracking of the van stopped. I presume this is where they came back to get him. He stops his second TOMTOM there. Apparently does not restart it again.
There is no further TOMTOM track until the 3:37CT track that starts the exact minute after the track from the TOMTOM we knew was in the van is ended.
So where is RY's missing 18.3 miles of TomTom there? Not to mention that somewhere in there they cruised past Asher Delmott, multiple times with no one seeing RY. How come all of the most suspicious days just happen to have the most incredibly awful tomtom coverage?"
Homedeferro triathlon - man of iron in Spanish.
RYinvestigator wrote:
Do you know how the Ibiza race was called?
Got the cheater:
Wanter of more information wrote:londoncalling wrote:Wow. Any further info on the Ibiza race?
in Ibiza and this time Rob crossed the line with his arms in the air having clearly cut the course.
Good luck, I tried to do that using my method: http://ryinvestigation.blogspot.com
Asher Delmott wrote:filmtimes wrote:I had been looking details about the backtracking distance, distance across Emporia, etc., but I hadn't got around to matching it with the RV tracker data. I am in the process of matching TomTom data to tracker data. (Initial data looks like Rob might have been putting in some miles while the RV tracker was off fwiw).Asher Delmott wrote:This was posted to the UL in reference to that 35mi tomtom track on 6/4:
I noticed the GPS data shows a 35 mi run starting at 10:10pm (which would include Emporia and the Lebo incident), and the next run starts around 3:37am (getting ready for the film crew at 4:00am?).
The blog also talks about not getting much rest because of the film crew. Maybe that was a good excuse to ride in the RV that night.
blog: http://www.marathonmanuk.co.uk...s-anymore/
"I took the 35mi one as the valid track for RY himself, but after looking at it closer I am doubting the legitimacy of that. Here's how I see it from viewing the RV and the RY gps data:
RY's TOMTOM gps: 35.18mi from 10:10CT to 3:37CT
RV Onlinetracker gps: 38.56mi from 10:02CT to 3:33CT (includes some backtracking in the middle)
Where it gets interesting is that the backtracking distance in the RV tracker adds up to 6 miles.
Subtract the 6 miles of back and forth (makes 12 miles) from the RV's total distance of 38.56 to find the net distance in that time frame is 26.75mi. Putting the Start and End coordinates into Google maps shows that the *REAL* distance on roads is indeed 26.4mi, which matches perfectly
So the RY TOMTOM GPS has to be in the van for at least *some* of that stretch in order to get the extra mileage - basically proving that their TomTom data is worthless.
The second TOMTOM track started at 10:22CT and goes 8.15mi in 1:32... coincidentally it ends EXACTLY where the backtracking of the van stopped. I presume this is where they came back to get him. He stops his second TOMTOM there. Apparently does not restart it again.
There is no further TOMTOM track until the 3:37CT track that starts the exact minute after the track from the TOMTOM we knew was in the van is ended.
So where is RY's missing 18.3 miles of TomTom there? Not to mention that somewhere in there they cruised past Asher Delmott, multiple times with no one seeing RY. How come all of the most suspicious days just happen to have the most incredibly awful tomtom coverage?"
Unfortunately, this website has results for 03, 02, 01, but not 04.
londoncalling wrote:RYinvestigator wrote:Home de ferro triathlon - man of iron in Spanish.
Do you know how the Ibiza race was called?
That is interesting. I noticed too that she stopped cheering Robert on at one point. Now all her posts she had of Robert are gone on her fb pages.
LSB wrote:
Anyone notice Lisa Smith-Batchen, who was previously effusive on RY's Facebook page, defending against the "haters", seems to have completely removed herself? I responded to a comment of hers a while ago and its gone from my activity log, as is any evidence of her around there.
She got tired of the jealous haters, or realized, after never running a single mile faster than like 13 minutes in the 5 days of her TransCon, that just maybe, RY was not really running all those 6 minutes miles...
be mindful of the timestamps on the tomtom data. I've found some in local time and some in london time. (-5h to equal tracker time). May change depending on which watch they are using. It made some tomtom segments show up out of order on the screenshots for the section i was looking at near flagstaff.
Asher Delmott wrote:
I had been looking details about the backtracking distance, distance across Emporia, etc., but I hadn't got around to matching it with the RV tracker data. I am in the process of matching TomTom data to tracker data. (Initial data looks like Rob might have been putting in some miles while the RV tracker was off fwiw).
Interesting, I thought GPS devices get the time from the satellites...
1 2 3 green wrote:Asher Delmott wrote:be mindful of the timestamps on the tomtom data. I've found some in local time and some in london time. (-5h to equal tracker time). May change depending on which watch they are using. It made some tomtom segments show up out of order on the screenshots for the section i was looking at near flagstaff.
I had been looking details about the backtracking distance, distance across Emporia, etc., but I hadn't got around to matching it with the RV tracker data. I am in the process of matching TomTom data to tracker data. (Initial data looks like Rob might have been putting in some miles while the RV tracker was off fwiw).
Not to my knowledge. Both Sweden and Ibiza were 30km runs.
googler wrote:
Btw, londoncalling, minor question but just curious, were any of these triathlons that Robert Young did full Ironman length courses, with a 42.2k run at the end? Several times in his book, Robert Young emphasizes that he never ran a marathon until April 2014. Just curious if that's a lie too. He certainly ran 30K in at least one of his triathlons, well, if he hadn't cut the course.
Again, minor question. Just curious.
I've just done some digging around and my memory is playing tricks - the Sweden race was definitely 2004. The Ibiza race was 2007, I could have sworn it was the same year but I raced a lot back then and was confusing Nice Long Distance 2004 with Ibiza 2007.
googler wrote:londoncalling wrote:Unfortunately, this website has results for 03, 02, 01, but not 04.RYinvestigator wrote:Home de ferro triathlon - man of iron in Spanish.
Do you know how the Ibiza race was called?
http://www.trisport.dk/AG-Resultat-menu.htm
(search "ibiza" on page)