you're all a bunch of fartfaces- ISU is a very good program- and the MVC has been a consistently productive conference - coaching xc in NJ- one can't help but look at all the local colleges success- Rider, Rutgers, Seton Hall and realize that if ISU could race out East they would have a very legitimate shot most years of making it out. Say what ou want- it's not tough out here. Great lakes is "mad hard" as the teens say. Bottom line is ISU does a great job with what they have- and they'd embarrass a bunch of East Coast programs that find it impossible to develop some great talent. IU....same story different year. They always get great talent…….what becomes of it…?go ahead- let me hear about the Jeffersons and Bob flockin Kennedy…IU’s a softy environment- Terre Haute’s like Sayreville, NJ- brickers who work hard and fly out of the bar swinging on friday night when IU’s sitting crosslegged in the back sippin martini’s and passing tips on hair gel. Year after year it’s the same thing. Helmer’s coached some tough kids- he’s in for a shock....godd thing Iu's got 4 million douche's on this website to back them up- IU Mens Cross Country.."got estrogen?"