Out of 10 runners, 4 ran PR's and 4 ran season best, the other 2 both dipped did sub 2 and one of those was a fraction off her pr
The race was obviously at the right pace and in ideal conditions. So the improvement isn't as big as it looks
I knew a guy knocked 2 seconds of his pr at age 30 and he was a junior international so had all those years to get it right, but took it him even longer
Before you ask, no way was he on drugs, I trained with him for a while & was always amazed he wasn't doing better in races as we was something else
Get behind you runners, I thought it was us Brits who were supposed to be cynical!
A man who runs 48 is within 4.9 of the men's world record. A woman at 53.86 is 6.26 over the women's world record. So, in relative terms, a 48 second male runner is superior to a 53.86 woman 400 meter runner.
Comparing Maggie to a 800 meter guy with a base 400 speed of 48 is an insult. She ran 53.86 in college from a standing start and was most likely faster than that at the start of her competitive season this year. You guys aren't getting it...this gal is untapped. She is an animal alright! Now that she's hungry look out.
I'd forgotten that, I thought he was near elite, but clearly he was elite USA at the time.
Vessey's coach, Greg Brock, placed 5th at the 1972 US Olympic Trials. Perhaps, he finally talked to into cranking out the miles. With her 400 meter and 200 meter times, a 1:57.85 is not out of the question. A high mileage approach worked for Peter Snell.
Women do not convert 400m speed to 800m speed equally either. Take a look at the following 400m vs 800m bests of these gals:
Jearl Miles-Clark 49.40 1:56.40 (8.800/lap slower-considered herself primarily a 400 runner)
Jarmila Kratochvilova 47.99 1:53.28 (8.650/lap slower)
Ana Quirot 49.61 1:54.44 (7.610/lap slower)
Maria Mutola 51.37 1:55.19 (6.225/lap slower)
Ludmila Formanova 51.84 1:56.56 (6.440/lap slower)
Stephanie Graf 52.69 1:56.64 (5.630/lap slower)
Maggie Vessey 53.61 1:57.84 (5.310/lap slower)
Meridith Valmon 53.25 1:57.04 (5.270/lap slower)
Pam Jelimo 52.78 1:54.01 (4.225/lap slower)
Christine Wachtel 54.36 1:55.32 (3.300/lap slower)
Jolanda Ceplak 54.67 1:55.19 (2.925/lap slower)
I think you nailed it here. The world is getting to hard.
the point could be wrote:
Boschenaar and BN, thanks for detailed info.
Maybe some people will begin to understand there are no set formulas in sports that work all the time. Patterns, yes. Forecastable, repetitive patterns, yes. But not some cushy, one size fits all formulas that you can use to explain all of the running world.
And lets be greatful for that. Self-amazement has got to be a unique gift to watch. Somewhat like growing up. Like hey, i just did what??
This one for Ms Vessey. And yeah, it is a bit dated and soft... and somewhat like an amazing run it has these wonderful changes of pace, without taking away from the overall harmony. From screaming to whispering. Funny enough it has to do with family.
I know, i know i can be a little soft. Just like the bottom of strong my feet.
Maggie be proud.