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You are reporting the following post to the moderators for review and possible removal from the forum Poster: ClearNow Subject: RE: Renato Canova - Arthur Lydiard Coaches Roundtable Body: I had been a lurker and a big-time follower of Canova posts. But I have to say I was a bit disappointed with his last post here. It seems to me that he had been trying to promote himself as a new and inovative modern training creator who is light years ahead of Arthur Lydiard, trying to point out why his methodology is better than that of Lydiard. But it seems almost he's running out of reasons and now he's simply saying, well, my training is better because my training pushes athletes beyond their mental limits.... I don't think it's a training method. I read somewhere where Greg McMillan said something about anybody can prescribe tough workouts (beyond the athlete's mental limits) but that's not "developing" athletes which I believe Lydiard did. It really sounded, to me, that he's saying, okay guys, here's the workouts for 2:03 marathon. Anybody who survived this, I'll take you to Boston or London or Rotterdam. At first, I thought Gypsy was wrong to say Canova's runners burn out after 3 years. But now I feel maybe it is true because that is the exact mentality, to be tough and break the pain barrier in workouts, that does burn out athletes. If that's Canova's "method", then it is nothing to do with developing athletes. I really don't think, and it's almost an insult to runners and coaches in the 60s and 70s, runners like Snell or Clarke or Mills or Shorter or Walker or Bedford were thinking, well, I want to train feeling-based so if I feel tough, I'll back off and go easy.... I don't think that's the reason why their times are a minute slower in 10000m than runners today. I don't think it's got nothing to do with "training method" of Renato Canova that broke the mental barrier that his runners are running 2:03 or 2:04. I also found it's interesting how, self-claim Canova followers like Antonio (=Joe or JR) criticize Lyidard being wrong because it's running too hard everyday (whether it's just under LT or VO2Max or Steady State or whatever) while Canova himself criticize Lydiard for being too easy and not suitable for today's competitive racing circuit. Something doesn't add up here. Hit the submit button below if you want us to review the post. If you feel this is urgent or want a reply, email us at letsrun@letsrun.com about the post and please include a link to the thread the post is on and what page number/post on that page it is
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