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Poster: Joe maggio
Subject: RE: Renato Canova - Arthur Lydiard Coaches Roundtable
Stop and think. Iīm upset that you since long ago and sistematically you ask me for books, references, "where itīs said" and finnaly on this case of best aerobic pace eveyday, you ask for reference, but you got not your own one. One with undoubtly prove, one stright sentence, from Lydiard "donīt do it everyday" or "do just X days odf the week". Something very focused and objective. Again, what you present is one by one your own interpertation that in my opinion itīs not correct to extrapolate fro the matter of best aerobic pace everyday.
This is the main reason of the names i name you.
But i want to say something more. This is similar to my last post. What you said about the relate of Lydiard training with Renato i agree mostly. But what is the interest to express what i agree what you post, in debate as in training, the main core of the debate is about what i disagree, as your main core what you reply is what you disagree, not what you agree.
Now the debate.
Intensity is similar to pace define and itīs similar to speed define
intensity=pace (quality) over distance (quantity), More intense means faster pace and longer distance.
pace = time over distance expressed in unity (of time or distance). Ex. 3:00min per kilometer, 5:20min per mile, 15kilos per hour.
speed=the average of the time spent over a determined distance, also express in unity.
intensity= the level of effort, or the energy spent. More intense in the rujnning sport means more faster or fast pace.
You do the mistake thatīs to take from one Renato Canova post, the one that Just for the record did post in this thread to elaborate your conclusion. But you are wrong.
Iīm so sure that all Renatoīs aerobic phase approach and modulation is done increase mileage/volume as well as intensity. In Renatoīs training philosophy increase volume (quantity) is AS IMPORTANT as increase pace or pace speed (the quality). Understood my opinion ? Or you donīt
Or in your comment you want pass the idea that the difference between Lydiard and canova relate to mileage is that Lydiard mileage target is 100miles, and from that on Lydiard advices the same 100miles with fast pace, or speed the pace of that same 100miles. But you said that Renato continues to the volume. Or itīs not right, itīs incomplete. Again Renatoīs training philosophy is "go faster and go longer". INTENSIVE and EXTENSIVE PROCESS, Of course the Renatoīs " aerobic fasterr and longer" is general principle, fondamental principle. He does different training aplication each single runner case, related to training individualization.
The second issue is more complex. I concede that the best aerobic pace is somehing vague and inaccurate and donīt know whatīs Lydiard undoubted and accuracy best aerobic pace define. i also doubt that he wants to precise that pace, but this is just my personal opinion.
Iīm an ignorant of Lydiard training, but i didnīt know different define of best aerobic pace from Lydiard himself, different from the one that i quote "just under max.VO2". Do you know other one ? If you do, reference, please.
Relate the best aerobic pace or other Lydiard aerobic to marathon pace, LT, whatever, I would love to read something original from Lydiard, What i read is from Lydiardism what is not the same. Some Lydiard parrots did the attempt to define Lydiard paces by physiologic parameters or pace from event reference (marathon pace, etc). I got no guarantee that what they say itīs what Lydiard wanted to mean. Everyone is free to say what pleases him, but i only accept that Lydiardism pace proposal or physiology proposal, the day they quote Lydiard with an undoubtedly reference that is what Lydiard wants to mean by ideas like the best aerobic pace. Otherwise itīs just the usual speculation without substantial prove.
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