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You are reporting the following post to the moderators for review and possible removal from the forum Poster: shazzuy Subject: RE: HEPS track and field--OUTDOOR 2012 Body: So incoming post from a former thrower, don't say you have not been warned.... On the whole Mens Cornell vs Princeton throws debate, here is my two cents: Shot: Cornell scores 14-16 (Mozia & Belden) depending on Belden and the Harvard (Glauser & Brode) kids. Princeton scores 2-4 (Park). Hammer: Cornell scores 2-6 (Fiedler). There are some major holes in Mens Hammer with 4 departing Seniors from last year. Princeton 10 (McCullough) LOCKED DOWN. If I recall correctly, Glauser from Harvard threw the High School hammer a solid 200+, so he should be a threat to place if he transitions well. Lipinsky from Brown will possibly lock down second depending on others development throughout the season. Disc: Cornell scores 14-16 (Mozia & Belden), again depending on Belden and the Harvard kids. If Mozia transitions in the Disc as well as he did in the Shot for indoors, he should be throwing at least 55 meters and have first place a lock. That may change next year with Penn's recruit, Sam Mattis... Princeton scores 4-6 (McCullough) depending on what Levine from Yale does. Jav: Both blank there as far as I know. Keeling from Brown seems like the early favorite based on last years performance. Again, another Mens throwing area that was vacated by many solid seniors. I think I remember Harvard recruiting a 220ish Jav guy, so that may be a fly in the ointment for Brown. Otherwise, there were some younger guys from Penn and Brown. Cornell or Princeton could make up some MAJOR points if they could get a Jav thrower. So, Cornell outscores Princeton in the throws by at least 12 points in my opinion. Harvard once again does VERY well in the throws, with Brown and Yale not far behind. Girls side of things are more tricky, as teams like Brown and Harvard have strong throws squads. I see Cornell picking up some major points vs. Columbia, but who knows how things will turn out. Shot: Putting Imbesi from Cornell down for another win in the shot with Buhr from Brown close behind. Columbia loses much needed points here to Cornell. Guessing another 11 points for Cornell, just like Indoors, and 14 for Brown, and Harvard and Dartmouth each picking up 2-4. Hammer: Craker from Brown should be a lock, with Adabelle (Harvard) and Rossi (Cornell) fighting for second. Columbia could pick up some much needed points here if Okwara can throw as well as she did indoor. Brown 10, Harvard and Cornell 6-8, with the rest a crapshoot until we see some outdoor results. Disc: Brown most likely goes 1,2 with Buhr and Craker. Harvard should score well, with Dartmouth picking up a few points as well. Cornell lost their big Senior, so we will see if their young coach can develop someone in time. Jav: One of *THE BEST* event groups in the Ivy League this year. I cannot stress how excited I am see this one fill out. Imbesi from Cornell will be back from her injury last year, and from what people told me at Indoor Heps, she will be gunning for over 50 meters from the get-go. Cornell also brought on a Freshman, Reed, who threw about 45 meters in High School. And lets not forget their sleeper Dombrowski, who improved by 20 feet last year to snag 4th at Heps. Harvard returns with a super solid Sophomore and Imbesi's major competition in Hannah Meyer, who was the top Jav thrower last year at just under 47 meters. Brown brings back Al-Hassan who threw just under 45 meters, and Penn brings back Wheeler as well, just under 45 meters. I am predicting that to place at Heps in Women's Javelin this year, you will need to throw at LEAST 44 meters (about 144 feet). There are only a couple other conferences in the nation that can boast those kinds of Women's Jav numbers. Very excited. Too bad the throwing area at Penn is out in the middle of freaking nowhere.... Hit the submit button below if you want us to review the post. If you feel this is urgent or want a reply, email us at letsrun@letsrun.com about the post and please include a link to the thread the post is on and what page number/post on that page it is
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