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Kim Stevenson
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 12/8/2005 9:25AM - in reply to 800west Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I am heading to Auckland today for National Secondary Schools Champs. Looking after 3 High Schools Athletes !.
Hope to catch up with some of the 'old' hands. Was hoping for a jog or two on Cornwall Park or Domain, but looking at kids programmes maybe just a lot of running around after them !
oasis
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 12/9/2005 5:36AM - in reply to Kim Stevenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
What is the best website to order "Running the Lydiard Way".
runner2016
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 12/16/2005 7:47AM - in reply to Snookie Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Definitly lydiard because his theory makes more sense and he is recognized as the best distance coach ever.
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RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 12/23/2005 5:26PM - in reply to Snookie Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mr. Lydiard is no longer with us, moot.
Absolute Genius
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 12/23/2005 5:38PM - in reply to ??????? Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
....but the 65 pages hence is proof that he always WILL be with us! :)
oasis
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/4/2006 6:59PM - in reply to trackmasta Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
bump
Skuj
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/4/2006 7:32PM - in reply to oasis Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Er...where did the rest of this thread go?
Kim Stevenson
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/4/2006 8:28PM - in reply to Skuj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ditto ! Page 67 last I looked ! Where has it gone ??
Skuj
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/4/2006 11:56PM - in reply to Kim Stevenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
But even 4 posts up there were 65 pages. WTF???????????
Dr. E
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 12:02AM - in reply to Kim Stevenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Actually, what bothers me is this. I go into 4 running stores and 5 bookstores, plus I called two bookstores and nothing, notta! NO LYDIARD BOOKS.

Even further into the depths of pathetic, the girl who I think owns the little Running Room (Skuj, there is one in Broadmead now) hadn't even heard of Lydiard.

One bookstore had a selection of about 40 books, the new Edition of the Lore of Running is out, fancy smanzie cover and all. But more than half were published by Runner's World or Rodale Press. This tells me there is a whole lot of the BS factor out there and very little of the Lydiard style no nonsense stuff....I promised myself a copy of Run the Lydiard Way...

Bah!
Dr. E
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 12:04AM - in reply to Skuj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey Skuj.,

Lets convert you to Lydiardism.
Skuj
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 12:50AM - in reply to Dr. E Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey E!

Dude, lets face it, we live in a fat country full of fat people who don't know and don't care about a man who contributed in great ways to that strange thing called running to the top.

As for my conversion, well, it's true that I never ran more than 100km in a single week, but, Lydiardism or not, I worked hard to build what Lydiard termed a strong aerobic base, and I discovered the benefits of that.

Now, I do believe that this great man didn't invent it all, and some other coaches have some wonderful ideas that do indeed stand outside the Lydiard model.

I guess I'm responding like this because I'm very upset that many pages of this thread disappeared without explanation, and posts such as these will restart some of the lost stuff. I'm pissed!!!!!
Kim Stevenson
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 3:19AM - in reply to Skuj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey E ! I have a spare copy for sale of Arthur's Running with Lydiard,published circa 1983. Problem is I would have to send it from New Zealand (about 10 days delivery max)
If you are interested e mail me back.. will give you a price.
Have sent books to a few folks who have posted here. All I make on them is a little on the exchange rate and a Beer or two (Arthur's favourite beverage).
HRE
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 8:37AM - in reply to Skuj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah. There have been a few posts on this thread that I copy and save on my computer. I hadn't done that over Christmas week and now a lot of that is gone. I'm not sure if there was anything in those pages that I wanted or not.
It would have been nice to have known in advance that some of the pages were going to be deleted.
Where've you been, Skuj?
drunkenhyena
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 9:49AM - in reply to HRE Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yeah, I really wasn't on much over Christmas/New Year's so I don't know if any deep discussion was continued/started, but are there any mods who can look into 7 pages of this thread just disappearing?
Dr. E
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 10:14AM - in reply to Kim Stevenson Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Beer is my favourite beverage to. The wet kind.
lots of miles
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 10:19AM - in reply to Dr. E Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Can anyone give me a sample year schedule for a 10k using Lydiards principles? I will test it against the Daniels Formula schedule I just used this lsat year. Then we can settle this once and for all.
Skuj
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 12:42PM - in reply to HRE Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Oh, I've been about. Seems I was banned for a while. Don't know why. Then I couldn't even access the page for a few weeks. WTF?

I do worry that in the middle of another good conversation, there will be another unexplained delete.

mikeinboston, you out there? :)

Nobby, how's things?

Anyway....Lydiard and Daniels and running and stuff: Apples, oranges, etc. If you love Daniels Formula, you are therefore a personality that is attracted to said program. Likewise for Lydiard. I do believe that some coaches just do not speak to certain personalities, for a variety of reasons. This needs to be remembered. I was very very attracted to Coe-Martin speak. I love exactness and mathmatical things. I think we all seek out coaches who speak to our already existing needs and desires and strengths. When we find that coach, we often exclaim "He Is The One".

Beatles or Stones? :)

Anyway, there's a thought. Or two.
Dr. E
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 12:45PM - in reply to Skuj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Beatles and Stones, but Beatles.
HRE
RE: LYDIARD OR DANIELS? 1/5/2006 1:16PM - in reply to Skuj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Skuj,
When the pupil is ready, the teacher will appear, eh?
Nobby went off to Japan because his father had surgery that the doctors expected he wouldn't survive (Nobby's father, not Nobby.) His dad did survive, but apparently Nobby is still there. This was all in the deleted pages.
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