CraigMac4h wrote:
See, I disagree with Nobby when he says "oh, this isn't Lydiard," or "oh, this is Lydiard."
Where in the Lydiard method it says that we can change the training fundaments and still be Lydiard considered ?
Where or when in the books, the articles, the internet sites signed by Lydiard or some Lydiard legitimate representative it says that EVENTUALLY we can miss or do differently the 100miles, the long run, that we can do intervals during the marathon block that we can miss the hill training, that we can do things from another training method and this is Lydiard training ?
Where it’s said that we can get out of the fundaments that characterize Lydiard training ?
There you are once again doing circles in your argument.
You start with Lydiard, or Horwill or Frank Shorter based whatever. Then you change it by some reason be the imperfection of the method for your own case or simply because the original method doesn’t fit on you and you add or reduce or change something by your own decision – the part that you change that´s from another method – it doesn´t matter to what method it is.
The 3 main reasons you change from the original training are:
1/the fundaments haven’t methodological and or scientific evidence.
1/the fundaments/principles of that method aren’t good enough to cover a large range of situations.
3/your individual case doesn’t fit in that method or you do something from other one that fits best in you.
When one, two or three of this situations that happens the method is far from to be good or perfect.
Let me try to communicate it the easy way. You said you use Frank Shorter method with adapt to your individual case. But according to the Lydiardism Frank Shorter he is Lydiard influenced. Does your training is Lydiard training ?
Relate to the fundaments and principles of each training method, if you don’t use it you are out of that method really indeed.
In fact wht you say is that when Lydiard said that his training was the best and comment about Pirie that the interval training method he did was wrong Lydiard was making a mistake. We doesn’t understood that may be a method different than Lydiard fits best on Pirie than his own method.
At this point Lydiard method is nothing but a BRAND – it have no little with Lydiard really – that’s something we relate with and we have a feeling of identification to what you do to something collective or universal and with a trans-material need of affection..
That’s the case of the japanese when you ask them about their training they say “Lydiard”.