Shame I haven’t seen this excellent piece by Adharanand Finn get any love here on LetsRun. Pin it to the front page and make it required reading for everyone.
https://twitter.com/adharanand/status/1105823951295516673?s=21
Shame I haven’t seen this excellent piece by Adharanand Finn get any love here on LetsRun. Pin it to the front page and make it required reading for everyone.
https://twitter.com/adharanand/status/1105823951295516673?s=21
totorious wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Incidentally Tulu, the first Black African woman to win an Olympic gold medal when she upset media favourite Elena Meyer in the 10,000m in Barcelona 1992, may be part of the reason why the IAAF arrived at this misguided decision as she singlehandedly started a revolution in East Africa that saw women, who previously had been condemned to a life of continual pregnancy and eternal domesticity, challenge centuries of ingrained cultural biases and constraints and follow their men into the sport, ushering in the flood of Kenyan and Ethiopian dominance.
I fell out of my chair laughing at the thought that she is part of the reason why the IAAF arrived at this decision. Pure comedy gold!
She opened the floodgates. Before Deratu Tulu, Ethiopian and Kenyan women were expected, an happy, to stay home. Liz McCoglan likes to brag on Twitter that she “beat the Africans” in her day, but back then, women Kenyan and Ethiopian women were fighting a culture that strongly discouraged women participating in sport. Deratu Tulu smashed that glass ceiling to smithereens that night in Barcelona. She’s the people moan that Western girls don’t stand a chance.
^ Pardon that messy post. Clearly inebriated this Friday night and not in a state to be typing anything on a ? with out of control autocorrect.
David S wrote:
I suspect that the African dominance in distance running hasn't helped its marketability, but if that is truly the reason for this decision it really sets a terrible precedence. Are we going to eliminate a sport every time a western country drops out of contention? If so I hope the east africans just dominate everything and whoever is in charge of this decision stops making money altogether.
Coe is all about money. He wants to get richer and richer, even if it kills track in the long run. Look at his career, his ongoing earnings from CSM/Chime, and his Nike ambassadorship.
El Keniano wrote:
totorious wrote:
I fell out of my chair laughing at the thought that she is part of the reason why the IAAF arrived at this decision. Pure comedy gold!
She opened the floodgates. Before Deratu Tulu, Ethiopian and Kenyan women were expected, an happy, to stay home. Liz McCoglan likes to brag on Twitter that she “beat the Africans” in her day, but back then, women Kenyan and Ethiopian women were fighting a culture that strongly discouraged women participating in sport. Deratu Tulu smashed that glass ceiling to smithereens that night in Barcelona. She’s the people moan that Western girls don’t stand a chance.
I'm not doubting that she helped pave the way, I'm laughing at the idiotic suggestion that it was part of the IAAF's decision this week.
totorious wrote:
I'm not doubting that she helped pave the way, I'm laughing at the idiotic suggestion that it was part of the IAAF's decision this week.
Maybe you're the idiot then.
Can we at the very least get rid of Triple Jump as well.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Perhaps this is how the IAAF eradicates epo from the track.
It's a start. The cheating by E. Africans has been out of control for three decades.
Gabe Rose wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Perhaps this is how the IAAF eradicates epo from the track.
It's a start. The cheating by E. Africans has been out of control for three decades.
Britain's Olympic sprint champions: Allan "Testo" Wells and GB's own Olympic Captain, Linford "Nandro" Christie, concur. These Africans really must be taught a jolly good lesson.
Gabe Rose wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Perhaps this is how the IAAF eradicates epo from the track.
It's a start. The cheating by E. Africans has been out of control for three decades.
Yeah, but we know from that big IAAF leak that the 800 was a actually a lot dirtier than the 5000/10000, see the summary in the Sunday Times in 2015.
El Keniano wrote:
Kenya expected to follow suit. Plan to marshal support from all African federations. Hopefully the beginnings of a challenge to the Coe tyranny.
https://twitter.com/evelynwatta/status/1106211289259491329?s=21Prediction: there will be little or no support coming from Western federations and media, who largely agree, and it’s going to come down to Africa and Asia pushing back at this. Hopefully this results in Coe and his acolytes being bundled out of office.
Would be wonderful. Hopefully, they go a bit deeper and uncover all the coverups as well.
British Sprinter Olympians wrote:
Gabe Rose wrote:
It's a start. The cheating by E. Africans has been out of control for three decades.
Britain's Olympic sprint champions: Allan "Testo" Wells and GB's own Olympic Captain, Linford "Nandro" Christie, concur. These Africans really must be taught a jolly good lesson.
Let's not neglect Mo "Sabadell" Farah!
In the world of clear communication for the sake of supporting your passion, semantics matter. The use of ‘formerly’ does not defend the intelligent collective rebuttal.
casual obsever wrote:
Gabe Rose wrote:
It's a start. The cheating by E. Africans has been out of control for three decades.
Yeah, but we know from that big IAAF leak that the 800 was a actually a lot dirtier than the 5000/10000, see the summary in the Sunday Times in 2015.
There have been sprinters busted for EPO, so . . . .
It’s all in the form wrote:
In the world of clear communication for the sake of supporting your passion, semantics matter. The use of ‘formerly’ does not defend the intelligent collective rebuttal.
It’s been nagging the heck out of me, believe me. But an edit function would give LetsRun idiots an out that is absolutely not needed. Maybe a mod could edit it for me? I’ve seen them do it on other threads. It’s ‘formally’, please.
NWrun wrote:
Can we at the very least get rid of Triple Jump as well.
We know this site is skewed toward events 5000m to ultras. Please learn the history and reason for T&F. Track & Field along with other sports were replacement activities for soldiers. Too many soldiers were dying during training from bayonet wounds, brain trauma and sword slashes. Track & Field at Olympics were and are a friendly way for soldiers to compete against those from other nations. Soldiers have morphed into athletes. Running alone is not necessarily athletic. Triple jump stays.
Bad Wigins wrote:
they should boycott the 2019 season
ya, boycott diamond, attend other meets, have a second league, compete in the 3000 and 1.5 and then
make a stand on the podium, with black gloves and and index finger to IAAF.
do it.
the white racist card is bogus these days.
but
you gotta stick up for ethopia and kenya.
they have but one sport that they dominate, and they work very hard to achieve the results.
the PED claims are valid but that's really bogus because they were last on that wagon versus the west and iron curtain.
so PEDs argument does not fly.
it's against track and field integrity, tradition and fair play to east africa.
the cancellation of 5k and up, is simply because europe and usa don't have any real talent in it. or little.
it they did, like a coe and ovett doing 5k you can bet the IAAF would never have done what they done.
again, it's a bunch of old jackass corrupt men forcing their bogus ideas on the masses.
you could play the white race card here, but i'm sure the jackasses of the IAAF include all colors.
you want democracy with intelligence and a will for the good of the group.
these people have none.
kapish?
I have faith IAAF will run Diamond League as IAAF runs Continental Cup. At Continental Cup, there is 3000mSC for men and women and 3000m for both men and women.
Long ago, officially or unofficially Kenyans decided their best runners 5000m and longer would skip 5000m and 10000m and focus on Marathon. Ethiopians will do well in 3000m and will Kenyans.
Coe, competitively he was a better 1500m runner than 800m knows that some aging 1500m runners would love to see 3000m as an official event. If Coe does not at least add a 3000m, Coe will have to answer for a lot of things. I am sure there is hidden dirt on Coe which would be exposed if he does not at least add 3000m.
this track ruling nonsense is part of an over all global agenda to push nonsensical rules and regulations.
you get sfuff like “Sure, the Dream mile is still hanging on, but not what it was ‘back in the day’..
if you eliminate the mile, then you might as well eliminate track.
so the entire discussion is bogus.
people are using logic in this "debate', like how are you going to practice the 5k for the OG.
we'll they will eliminate the 10k and then god forbid the 5k,
unthinkable?
they're pushing to have full grown men compete against 100 pound teen women, and they've just eliminated most of your OG trial efforts, and they've just eliminated 5k and previously 10k track events.
stop saying the phrase unbelievable, because you've seen these bogus groups with their inane rulings and decisions for years, and they're ramping it up, full tilt.
you better believe the trajectory, and expect more of the same.
wind surfers, pole dancers, and flame eaters at the OG, while running events bite the dust, nothing is safe.
stop saying unbelievable, you've seen it, repeatedly, warned repeatedly, and you sit back and take it.
you think complaining without action, is don't something. it isn't. nada. you're the probem along with the powers that be.
kapish?