Dr. Shawn Baker on the dietary fiber myth

this comprehensive double-blind survey of a self-selected population of one certainly convinced me.

I liked this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=bQx-369q2BE

noticer of things wrote:

this comprehensive double-blind survey of a self-selected population of one certainly convinced me.

You are welcome to produce evidence against it.

I'm not sure what it is that makes diet an issue that people feel the need to get evangelical about. I'm glad the dude found a diet that works for him, but what is it that makes so many people think "I like eating certain things. I NEED TO TELL THE WORLD AND CONVINCE THEM TO LIKE THE SAME STUFF AS ME."

Eat nothing but meat. Eat no meat at all. You do you. You don't need to convince me of anything.

YMMV said: You are welcome to produce evidence against it.

your statement is factually correct. as it stands.

however, you' don't appear to be clear on how this "evidence," thing works.

he is the one making the claim, it is up to him to produce evidence in support of his claim.

I, on the other hand, make no claim. I merely pointed out that his claim is evidence-free and supported only by his own testimony.

you do you wrote:

I'm not sure what it is that makes diet an issue that people feel the need to get evangelical about. I'm glad the dude found a diet that works for him, but what is it that makes so many people think "I like eating certain things. I NEED TO TELL THE WORLD AND CONVINCE THEM TO LIKE THE SAME STUFF AS ME."

Eat nothing but meat. Eat no meat at all. You do you. You don't need to convince me of anything.

I don't know. Not like there is 24/7 non-stop propaganda about how good a plant based diet is. When in fact, vegans don't look that healthy. When the American diet is already plant based. When it is huge corporate interest(hint pharmaceutical and pesticides) in pushing the plant based agenda. When people are trying to tax meat and some are even trying to ban meat.

noticer of things wrote:

YMMV said: You are welcome to produce evidence against it.

your statement is factually correct. as it stands.

however, you' don't appear to be clear on how this "evidence," thing works.

he is the one making the claim, it is up to him to produce evidence in support of his claim.

I, on the other hand, make no claim. I merely pointed out that his claim is evidence-free and supported only by his own testimony.

Is fiber good for us?

Evidence it is essential for bowel movements?

No evangelizing here. Only presenting evidence and ideas that counter the prevailing mythology. If someone is 100% satisfied with their diet, why would they even click and watch the video? I think that most people who are honest have serious doubts about certain aspects of the status quo. What they do with the new information is up to them.

I look forward to a non-biased account of only scientific facts and reasoning ....... oh look he's creating this content just to monetise it through YouTube and product placement on his website.

Listen, if people are making strong assertions on the internet just to make money through clicks and product placement, then it's best not to trust them.

Impartiality is king.

Would you trust an Adidas employee giving "a personal and scientific account" about how Adidas is better than Nike?

Too many posters don’t want to be confused by the facts. They would rather stick to their opinions. I included the US News and World Reports studies pertaining to the 3 most frequently skewed opinions on LR. 1-Plants are very good. Lesser amounts of high quality protein is also good. 2-Smart kids earn the same amount regardless of what school they attend so they should normally attend the lowest cost option. 3-Vaccines are safe and necessary.

https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-healthy-eating-diets

https://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/the-college-solution/2011/03/01/the-ivy-league-earnings-myth

https://www.google.com/amp/s/health.usnews.com/health-care/for-better/articles/2017-01-25/vaccines-are-safe-and-necessary%3fcontext=amp

first of all, being a 'doctor' doesn't really give him any authority on this subject as he's an orthopedic surgeon,

not a GI doctor or even a general surgeon.

Second, if it worked for him and you, that's great! Not everyone's body was adapted or meant to eat so much meat.

Can't we just eat for our own health and stop claiming we've found the best diet for everyone?

He quit his job as a surgeon and has now resorted to this to make money...kinda feel bad for him TBH

Let’s see how he is physically at 75 or 80. Many diet evangelicals are dead before 75.

Yo that dude has pre-Diabetes which he admitted and tried to rationalize. Strong AF but still unhealthy.

Personally would rather eat all foods in moderation and not be a diabetic.

Give him another 10 years and he'll have Type II diabetes.

I grew up in a heavily meat eating family. Common meal schedule would be something like bacon and eggs for breakfast, cold cut sandwich for lunch and beef stew, lamb/pork chops or chicken for dinner. I almost constantly had stomach problems as a kid. Constipation, gas, and very bad stomach aches off and on. In college, I started eating less meat and adopting about a 20/80 meat/veggie diet. It took a few months to adjust, but after that, the stomach problems were gone.

This Baker guy is a quack. All he has discovered is that increasing protein intake is helpful as you age because your ability to metabolize protein declines with age.

Otherwise, this is the same trick as keto, Adkins, etc. It is easier to do a calorie deficit diet with lots of animal protein and fats because you will feel full.

But the science is unanimous on what happens in the long run. Meat eaters are off the charts when it comes to heart disease, cancer and diabetes compared to those with a balanced diet.

Dr. Baker (along with Zack Bitter) is an accomplished human being on multiple levels who is a thought leader in a burgeoning area; if your diet is working for you you won't be threatened by his recommendations. If someone cites Jesus as saving their life from drugs and alcohol, my response (as long as they are respectful and modest in their testimony) is "Great, glad it worked for you", although I am not a believer. Dr. Baker epitomizes a man who "walks the walk", unlike so many "plant-based" industry shills. He is offering a true alternative to the recommendations which have sent modern society down a dead-end street paved in obesity, diabetes and chronic health problems.

YMMV wrote:

noticer of things wrote:

this comprehensive double-blind survey of a self-selected population of one certainly convinced me.

You are welcome to produce evidence against it.

I could, but I usually flush it down the toilet.

Baker owns zero erg records at this time... Paul Jeffrey has usurped any and all records that Baker might have held briefly.

You keep attacking most plant based diet doctors and researchers and you say they are "industry shills"....but trust in keto propaganda and promote it like absolute truth? How many of these carnivore based/meat based diet guys have been eating like this for more than 30 + years? Has there ever been a population in human history that has thrived for more than 50+ years on a high meat diet?....we already know the Massaii and Inuits have been quite unhealthy. Type II diabetes, stroke/cancer/heart disease is right around the corner. If Dr. Shawn Baker didn't exercise he would really be in trouble with that kind of diet.

Dr. T. Colin Campbell "runs the walk" as a plant based vegan...dude is like 85:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JnYsxmrk7o

And to the person who said the average American diet is "plant based" already? No it is not. It is highly processed food based, high fat, high protein and high calorie ( and usually full of meat/dairy).

Dr. Shawn Baker vs Dr. Greger. Baker is a few years older mind you. Which one looks healthier?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=9M-U-8L6a4Y