Is this good training for a very deticated high school freshman focusing on the 3200 this track season?

Just claim you're going for a bike ride with your girlfriend(or boyfriend, I don't judge). And instead run.

Trust me I have tried many things like that. Once every couple months or so somebody tells my parents they saw me out running and I get busted and in trouble.

Your parents are that involved in your running? I never discussed any of my training with my parents. My coach didn't guard my house in the morning so I could run as far as I wanted.

Lucky you, my parents monitor everything and are great friends with my coach.

I need more mileage please help wrote:

Lucky you, my parents monitor everything and are great friends with my coach.

Just tell your parents off.

40 miles a week is perfectly fine for a high school freshman. The best way to ensure that you stay as healthy as possible and can run competitively for as long as possible is to not overdo it too early. Too much too early would be disastrous for your long term development. Ritz ran 100+ mpw as a high school SENIOR and was blessed with loads of durability and an inhuman pain tolerance that’s nearly unheard of.

If you’re dead set on breaking into a higher level of training then don’t start building up mileage, build up cross training minutes. Biking and swimming can be just as effective as running when it comes to building your aerobic strength and from what you’ve described it sounds like your coach would be accepting of that.

He’s not. Just got in trouble today at practice for riding the exercise bike for 20 min after my run. Trust me I have lots of durability. Ran a 10k at 5:49 mile pace with less then 40mpw. On the other hand I can only run a 1:06 400 fresh. I also have no injury history.

I need more mileage please help wrote:

Lucky you, my parents monitor everything and are great friends with my coach.

Like the other poster said, 40mpw is good enough for a Freshman. Have you discussed with your coach what he invisions for the next 3 years as far as mileage goes?

Listen to your coach and follow the training. It looks like a very solid plan to me. You have two options- follow the plan and keep improving, or go against your coach and possibly not run at all. Be coachable, you don’t know everything and you are definitely wrong in this situation.

Yes he said he wants to build up to 60-70 mpw as a senior.

I’m also not going for good enough. I’m going being the best I can possibly be.

Go to a friend's house and run on a treadmill. Do an hour of core at an aerobic heart rate. "Accidentally" take a wrong turn on a short run or long run. Run to school but say you walked. Bike to and from school. Say you want to train to be a triathlete, but actually just cross train. Run circles in your backyard while parents aren't looking. Go to bed early (like 8pm) wake up early (like 4am) and run while they're asleep.

Lots of ways to do it, just gotta be creative. And if they reduce your practice miles (like from 40 to 30) just make sure it's worth it (do 20 mpw in doubles) then you're not really losing.

Take a deep breath... ready?

What is the best 3200 meter guy your coach has ever coached? Unless it is absolutely terrible (greater than 10:00) you are fine. Your coach is limiting you because they have a plan. If he has a plan for you, trust him. Yes, he may want to limit you to a lower mileage than you want, but that’s okay. Think about it, if your coach is smart enough and forward-thinking enough to have a plan for you, he knows what he is doing. Say it with me, “My coach knows what he is doing.” Repeat it out loud.

Yes, you may have a different training philosophy than you do, but that is okay. Trusting your training is a million times more important than running an extra 10 mpw in junk miles. Yes, that may help you, but fighting your coach for four years is much, much worse. Two things will happen if you keep trying to do this. 1) You will resent him. 2) He will resent you. #2 is clearly already happening. You will prove nothing. You will gain nothing.

I know you want to be the best, I understand. I was in your position once. I wanted to run more than my coach wanted...but I never resented him for it. I developed just fine. 60-70mpw as a senior will not be “limiting” you. Talent will. Hate to break it to you but thats the truth. Running 100mpw might make you marginally better, but not being in constant conflict with your coach will make you worse because runners can’t run under two coaches at the same time. You can’t “re-do” track workouts every week. Ritz was amazing because he was talented, not because he ran 100mpw. Maybe he ran 10 seconds faster for 5k because of it, but I doubt your mileage progression would have stopped him from dominating and going D1.

There is another thread bouncing around right now where the coach is actually terrible. Your coach is not one of them. Trust me. Trust your training. Please. If you don’t you can’t trust anyone on your team, and that’s a terrible position to be in. Don’t put yourself in that position if you don’t have to.

If you have more questions, I’ll be happy to respond.

^^^ Listen to Breathe...^^^

Your training looks solid. Your coach is doing a good job of protecting you from yourself. Trust him.

OP look at this, and than show your parents the benefits of the humane way to train.

http://www.joehenderson.com/longslowdistance/home.php?article=

That training looks fine but remember the art and science of coaching. I had a 15 year old boy run 16:07 on the track for 5k on far less. I also had a 8th grader run 4:40 and 10;:10 on our training program that is based on consistent training

Focusing on just 3200 as a freshman is not what I would recommend. Over the course of the season you should run 800's and plenty of 1600's

Good luck!

If you are interested in what high performance high school athletes do on 30-50 miles per week let me know.

Cheers

What have high performance high schoolers done on 30-50 per week?

Watch Footlocker, watch NXN, watch New Balance Indoors and Outdoors nationals. I’d bet that at least half those guys have never cracked 60 mpw for a single week. Many high schoolers run that much, and many more much less. I saw a recent workout Wednesday, with one of the top 3200 guys in the nation, and he was running like 35 mpw max, maybe less.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tHiIs4sREio

Trust me, mileage is not really anyone’s limiting factor after about 50 on good coaching...

40 as a frosh to 70 as a senior sounds like a good progression to me.

Don’t worry about only running a 66 for the open 400. I ran a 74 in a workout as a frosh ( never raced one but that 74 was all out). I was able to run 54 by the time I was 20.

Your training looks pretty good though, seriously.