Cheserek 13:08, Marielle Hall 15:07 @ BU Last Chance 5k

Anyone else notice his mile splits were 4:13, 4:13, 4:13? That's a beautifully executed race.

The field wrote:

Right now, missing from action:

Evan Jager

Paul Chelimo

Eric Jenkins

Ryan Hill

Centro

Hassan Mead

Chris Derrick

Robby Andrews ain’t looking so good. Don Cabral is running marathons.

New guys on the seen:

Bors, Ferlic, mcGurty, Engels.

Gonna be a whole new show!!

Ben True

mark sufferburg wrote:

BU 5ks > USA Indoors?

Bowerman already sent Quigley and Shelby to USA's, taking the top spot in mile and 2 mile and second for the mile as well. That's all the big prize money, the other bowerman girls maybe would've gotten a couple thousand dollars to show up in New York and run a distance that doesn't qualify them for anything else. Running the 5k at BU got them the world standard for outdoors. If any of them got an injury in April or May they don't have to worry about rushing back to hit a time, they can just train for USA's in July. And for the guys, Ches can't run in USATF races yet. But I am a little surprised some of the Army guys didn't show up at Indoor USATF since there was $6k on the table for the 2 mile win that some of the runners in this 5k could have won. But now they (both Bor brothers) also have the world standard for outdoors which is a little bigger than running and indoor usatf race.

What ever happened to Solinsky and Teg?

sub 13 for him this summer!

Finally, someone that gets it.

zxcvzxcv wrote:

We know he's not in top shape yet, as he was well behind his shape in the mile, as he said--having had a break from training or at least inconsistent training in the winter. Sub 13 outdoors for sure this year with health.

According to vdot 13:08 5k is equal to a 3:48 mile. So aerobically he is there.

mcvred wrote:

Bowerman women went 1-4, Hall wins in 15:07.

Women's results:

inals

1 #6 Hall, Marielle Nike/ Bowerm 15:07.17 1

2 #7 Schweizer, Karissa Nike/ Bowerm 15:11.56 1

3 #5 Frerichs, Courtney Nike/ Bowerm 15:12.55 1

4 #4 Fraser, Vanessa Nike/ Bowerm 15:14.75 1

5 #417 Conley, Kim New Balance 15:32.79 1

I've cut out splits, but you can find them here:

https://www.lancertiming.com/results/winter19/LastChance/index.htm

Does anyone think Emma Coburn can run a 5k in 15:12 right now?

I don't think so.

Frerichs might destroy her this year if she's doing enough steeplechase-related strengthening...

douglas burke wrote:

Dyam wrote:

Wow.

EBor now becomes a favorite to make the 5k team for Doha.

And HBor could upset Jager in the Steeple. (Not to mention Kebenei)

I can't see him beating Jager in the Steeple, but yes great run for him.

+1

Bors are both now US all-time indoor 5k top 10.

What about Hall?

No, 13:08 5000m is much slower than 3:48 mile, relative to the event. I believe that only one person has broken 3:48 in the mile since 2006 (Alan Webb in 2007, 3:46.91). Among Americans alone who have run faster than 13:08 since that time, there has been Chris Derrick, Ben True, Hassan Mead, Galen Rupp, Chris Solinsky, Dathan Ritzenhein, Bernard Lagat, Matt Tegenkamp, Eric Jenkins, and probably more. Or to put it another way, 3:48 is 5 seconds slower than the world record, 2.2% slower, whereas 13:08 is 31 seconds slower than the world record, 4.1% slower.

Jesus is waiting on the bus wrote:

zxcvzxcv wrote:

We know he's not in top shape yet, as he was well behind his shape in the mile, as he said--having had a break from training or at least inconsistent training in the winter. Sub 13 outdoors for sure this year with health.

According to vdot 13:08 5k is equal to a 3:48 mile. So aerobically he is there.

Or, you can see that Kejelcha, who ran 12:46 last year, ran 3:48.5 indoors.

Don't shoot the messenger.https://runsmartproject.com/calculator/

zxcvxcvz wrote:

No, 13:08 5000m is much slower than 3:48 mile, relative to the event. I believe that only one person has broken 3:48 in the mile since 2006 (Alan Webb in 2007, 3:46.91). Among Americans alone who have run faster than 13:08 since that time, there has been Chris Derrick, Ben True, Hassan Mead, Galen Rupp, Chris Solinsky, Dathan Ritzenhein, Bernard Lagat, Matt Tegenkamp, Eric Jenkins, and probably more. Or to put it another way, 3:48 is 5 seconds slower than the world record, 2.2% slower, whereas 13:08 is 31 seconds slower than the world record, 4.1% slower.

Jesus is waiting on the bus wrote:

According to vdot 13:08 5k is equal to a 3:48 mile. So aerobically he is there.

Jesus waiting for the bus wrote:

Don't shoot the messenger.

https://runsmartproject.com/calculator/

zxcvxcvz wrote:

No, 13:08 5000m is much slower than 3:48 mile, relative to the event. I believe that only one person has broken 3:48 in the mile since 2006 (Alan Webb in 2007, 3:46.91). Among Americans alone who have run faster than 13:08 since that time, there has been Chris Derrick, Ben True, Hassan Mead, Galen Rupp, Chris Solinsky, Dathan Ritzenhein, Bernard Lagat, Matt Tegenkamp, Eric Jenkins, and probably more. Or to put it another way, 3:48 is 5 seconds slower than the world record, 2.2% slower, whereas 13:08 is 31 seconds slower than the world record, 4.1% slower.

They didn’t shoot the messenger. They just stated the message was incorrect.

With that said, not surprised at all by this from Chez. He & Chelimo are by far our biggest talents on the track.

round and round wrote:

mcvred wrote:

Bowerman women went 1-4, Hall wins in 15:07.

Women's results:

inals

1 #6 Hall, Marielle Nike/ Bowerm 15:07.17 1

2 #7 Schweizer, Karissa Nike/ Bowerm 15:11.56 1

3 #5 Frerichs, Courtney Nike/ Bowerm 15:12.55 1

4 #4 Fraser, Vanessa Nike/ Bowerm 15:14.75 1

5 #417 Conley, Kim New Balance 15:32.79 1

I've cut out splits, but you can find them here:

https://www.lancertiming.com/results/winter19/LastChance/index.htm

Does anyone think Emma Coburn can run a 5k in 15:12 right now?

I don't think so.

Frerichs might destroy her this year if she's doing enough steeplechase-related strengthening...

Honestly I think Coburn could run around there for 5k given her 8:41 3k flat PR. Plus she’s run 4:05 for 1500; Frerichs has only run 4:14. One could argue she could run faster than 4:14 (which was last spring btw), but one could also argue that Coburn could run a 15:10ish 5k just as much.

round and round wrote:

Does anyone think Emma Coburn can run a 5k in 15:12 right now?

I don't think so.

Frerichs might destroy her this year if she's doing enough steeplechase-related strengthening...

From what I read, Frerichs paced it to 4k as well and just hung on for a new PR. Not sure of the splits on that, but I wonder if she'd gone a little more evenly what she could've run. Good sign for her.

Actually, just looked at splits in the OP link. Seemed like she was pretty even and consistently in the 3:03/k range. Great race for her and still looks great for her outdoor season.

Not a College Runner wrote:

Anyone else notice his mile splits were 4:13, 4:13, 4:13? That's a beautifully executed race.

Rabbit to 3k at 7:52 was perfect. Craig Nowak from Furman Elite. Was actually a little surprised the King didn't run even faster!

Does anyone think Emma Coburn can run a 5k in 15:12 right now?

I don't think so.

Frerichs might destroy her this year if she's doing enough steeplechase-related strengthening...[/quote]

For sure Coburn can. Despite the fact that she has ran more shorter distance races than 5k's (same can be said for Frerichs) she definitely comes from more of a 5k background than 1500m. I've been wanting to see Coburn in a 5k for a while, and recently Frerichs as well considering her 1500m is much weaker (4:14) than her steeple. I think Coburn can go 14:45-14:50, and Frerichs 14:55-15:00.