kmaclam wrote:
Americans are soft wrote:
Like kids really take up that much time in one's day.
Ugh, you sound like 'Father of the Year' material.......not
It's all about time management and not being lazy.
kmaclam wrote:
Americans are soft wrote:
Like kids really take up that much time in one's day.
Ugh, you sound like 'Father of the Year' material.......not
It's all about time management and not being lazy.
"Retire", work a full-time job. Run 2:20. Get into the trials. Be a sub-elite. Have fun.
I don't think its feasible to run 2:10 with most full-time jobs, but he could stay in 2:30/2:20 shape and get to the line in 2020, 2024. Its cooler when you do it just for the love of the sport. Much respect to those folks sub 2:40 that put in those miles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/sports/sub-elite-runners-chase-improvement.html
Rather be a dude on Wall Street with a good job making 100K and running 2:30 than most US runners. The money is not there. A lot of respect for those who give up everything to run.
How the hell did they ever go sub 2:10 in the marathon, before professionalism was allowed in running?
ncrunner25 wrote:
I don't think its feasible to run 2:10 with most full-time jobs, but he could stay in 2:30/2:20 shape and get to the line in 2020, 2024. Its cooler when you do it just for the love of the sport. Much respect to those folks sub 2:40 that put in those miles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/sports/sub-elite-runners-chase-improvement.htmlRather be a dude on Wall Street with a good job making 100K and running 2:30 than most US runners. The money is not there. A lot of respect for those who give up everything to run.
Back in the day a career job was 9am to 5pm.
Now the normal career job is 8am to 7pm.
The professional landscape has changed and you see the direct result in the lack of elite and sub elite depth in the US marathon scene.
TLW wrote:
Back in the day a career job was 9am to 5pm.
Now the normal career job is 8am to 7pm.
The professional landscape has changed and you see the direct result in the lack of elite and sub elite depth in the US marathon scene.
Heaven forbid someone runs after 7 PM, oh the horror!!!
ncrunner25 wrote:
I don't think its feasible to run 2:10 with most full-time jobs, but he could stay in 2:30/2:20 shape and get to the line in 2020, 2024. Its cooler when you do it just for the love of the sport. Much respect to those folks sub 2:40 that put in those miles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/sports/sub-elite-runners-chase-improvement.htmlRather be a dude on Wall Street with a good job making 100K and running 2:30 than most US runners. The money is not there. A lot of respect for those who give up everything to run.
Jerome Drayton I heard worked a Full Time Job, worked 12-14 hours a day and trained by himself and ran 2:10 and was a top marathoner for a lot of years.
Great memories of Luke on the track and on the roads. I remember him taking the lead at 2012 Trials in the pouring rain. He loved running and loved running for Oregon in particular. I would trade his 'lowlights' for my highlights any day.
Deek said he needed to work a job, to prevent himself from overtraining and take his mind off of running. Luke Puskedra would probably run faster if he worked a job while training for a marathon.
Americans are soft wrote:
kmaclam wrote:
Ugh, you sound like 'Father of the Year' material.......not
It's all about time management and not being lazy.
Americans are soft.
Americans are soft wrote:
Heaven forbid someone runs after 7 PM, oh the horror!!!
I worked from 8am to 7pm out of college and ran 120mpw to 140mpw for a few years after, so while your comment is daft, I get where you are coming from as I lived it.
The proof is in the pudding. Look at America's marathon depth. It's directly related to the change in the work place.
ncrunner25 wrote:
I don't think its feasible to run 2:10 with most full-time jobs, but he could stay in 2:30/2:20 shape and get to the line in 2020, 2024. Its cooler when you do it just for the love of the sport. Much respect to those folks sub 2:40 that put in those miles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/sports/sub-elite-runners-chase-improvement.htmlRather be a dude on Wall Street with a good job making 100K and running 2:30 than most US runners. The money is not there. A lot of respect for those who give up everything to run.
I think Steve Jones was still an RAF Aircrewman when he set the world-record for the marathon. He was still working shifts on airplanes well into his international career..
Yep... wrote:
This Swedish marathoner that qualified for Rio is a janitor that cleans only outside normal office hours. His PR is 2:08.
Swedish marathoner? He is a Japanese runner. The Swedish marathon record holder is Kjell-Erik Stahl and time 2:10 high.
walter j wrote:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuMzl00BpNv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_linkA little surprised as he is still pretty young and obviously we don’t have a lot of studs in the marathon after the old guard moves on, so I would imagine he would still have a chance to make teams.
But in the end it just sounds like injuries got to him and he is ready to move on. To real estate!
If he reads this I think he should contact CoachJS, the magic wizard on low mileage. Then he could run faster than ever on 50-60 miles per week. But maybe he feels he is done with running anyway and dont have the necessary motivation anymore?
www.coachjs.seCavorty wrote:
ncrunner25 wrote:
I don't think its feasible to run 2:10 with most full-time jobs, but he could stay in 2:30/2:20 shape and get to the line in 2020, 2024. Its cooler when you do it just for the love of the sport. Much respect to those folks sub 2:40 that put in those miles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/sports/sub-elite-runners-chase-improvement.htmlRather be a dude on Wall Street with a good job making 100K and running 2:30 than most US runners. The money is not there. A lot of respect for those who give up everything to run.
I think Steve Jones was still an RAF Aircrewman when he set the world-record for the marathon. He was still working shifts on airplanes well into his international career..
It's all about the mindset. Steve Jones mentally, was as tough as one can get. But most Americans, are deficient in grit.
Does the mom contribute financially to the kids?
That's correct...
You are spot on..
douglas burke wrote:
Jerome Drayton I heard worked a Full Time Job, worked 12-14 hours a day and trained by himself and ran 2:10 and was a top marathoner for a lot of years.
Everything except the hours. He worked as a civil servant! He got those bank holidays off, tons of vacation, and likely never worked a minute overtime!!!
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