Both of these athletes moved to the USA under the guidance of Terrance Mahon. Yet both of these athletes are going backwards in their careers. Granted Butchart had a surgery last season but he’s just out of sync in races I’ve seen and Sharp is not the athlete she once was.
Is it time for them to go back to Scotland or time for them to split up and find new partners and coaches?
Though I find him insufferable, Butchart had a fairly good 3k recently, but dnf'ed in B'ham for unknown reasons. Sharp is always going to be a 1:59-2:02 gal, no matter where or how much she trains, so don't get your hopes up.
Would say I left the running scene as he was making his breakthrough - but why do you not like butchart. Central guys were always a great laugh.
Also - when did butchart officially join TM group? Post olympics? I mean did anyone think he was really going to break 13?
Given injury if he can keep knocking out 7.40 or so 3ks indoors - would seem to indicate will be back around 13.10 outdoors. As they used to say about Tom McKean when finishing behind cram etc but running 1.43 - can we find a few more failures like butchart
Out of the loop but.... wrote:
Would say I left the running scene as he was making his breakthrough - but why do you not like butchart. Central guys were always a great laugh.
Also - when did butchart officially join TM group? Post olympics? I mean did anyone think he was really going to break 13?
Given injury if he can keep knocking out 7.40 or so 3ks indoors - would seem to indicate will be back around 13.10 outdoors. As they used to say about Tom McKean when finishing behind cram etc but running 1.43 - can we find a few more failures like butchart
My disgust for him came after Rupp won a half marathon. BUTCHART had Rupps face as his Instagram story with the word "F*ggot" over it.
Why use social media to spread hate, and ultimately make yourself look like a child? I understand not liking Rupp...
butcharts best days are behind him.
Glasgow wrote:
Though I find him insufferable, Butchart had a fairly good 3k recently, but dnf'ed in B'ham for unknown reasons. Sharp is always going to be a 1:59-2:02 gal, no matter where or how much she trains, so don't get your hopes up.
They are both insufferable, both are terrible people. These two think they are way better than what they are. There are bigger named stars who enjoy being part of the running community and they'll have a yarn on social media but not these two.
coachcommentsnicely wrote:
Out of the loop but.... wrote:
Would say I left the running scene as he was making his breakthrough - but why do you not like butchart. Central guys were always a great laugh.
Also - when did butchart officially join TM group? Post olympics? I mean did anyone think he was really going to break 13?
Given injury if he can keep knocking out 7.40 or so 3ks indoors - would seem to indicate will be back around 13.10 outdoors. As they used to say about Tom McKean when finishing behind cram etc but running 1.43 - can we find a few more failures like butchart
My disgust for him came after Rupp won a half marathon. BUTCHART had Rupps face as his Instagram story with the word "F*ggot" over it.
Why use social media to spread hate, and ultimately make yourself look like a child? I understand not liking Rupp...
butcharts best days are behind him.
Please tell me not true about Rupp - what an embarrassment
Out of the loop but.... wrote:
coachcommentsnicely wrote:
My disgust for him came after Rupp won a half marathon. BUTCHART had Rupps face as his Instagram story with the word "F*ggot" over it.
Why use social media to spread hate, and ultimately make yourself look like a child? I understand not liking Rupp...
butcharts best days are behind him.
Please tell me not true about Rupp - what an embarrassment
I don't believe it said that, but maybe I missed it. I believe it was a picture of Rupp saying something to the effect of "why does Rupp always look like he has to take a dump?" He's big buddies with Farah and adulates him, about as sketchy an athlete as exists. Always does that weird "C" hand signal on the starting line around his pubescent-ish mustache.
I would say that Sharp is exactly the athlete she once was: B grade.
Neither of them have produced good results since moving to Terence Mahon. Although Lynsey has run 1.57, I was surprised she kept her Olympic level lottery finding after her results last year.
Andy Butchart got injured almost as soon as he joined Mahon, had few races towards the end of last year and is hardly on world beating form thus indoor season.
Chris o Hare is also coached by Mahon, and is a noted choker in finals.
Maybe if the athletes are choking and getting seriously injured,doing basic sores and having previously successful running firm changed, they are training too hard or overloading somewhere? Has Mahon trained Olympic and world champions previously?
I wish them both well in their races this season.
Swedeas wrote:
I would say that Sharp is exactly the athlete she once was: B grade.
She’s actually worse now than the middling athlete she used to be, and it couldn’t happen to a nicer person. This chick was gratuitously vitriolic towards Caster Semenya and tried a ‘mean girls’ snub on her at the Olympics.
Out of the loop but.... wrote:
coachcommentsnicely wrote:
My disgust for him came after Rupp won a half marathon. BUTCHART had Rupps face as his Instagram story with the word "F*ggot" over it.
Why use social media to spread hate, and ultimately make yourself look like a child? I understand not liking Rupp...
butcharts best days are behind him.
Please tell me not true about Rupp - what an embarrassment
Fake news, of course he did not, how ridiculous.
Glasgow wrote:
Though I find him insufferable, Butchart had a fairly good 3k recently, but dnf'ed in B'ham for unknown reasons. Sharp is always going to be a 1:59-2:02 gal, no matter where or how much she trains, so don't get your hopes up.
fairly obvious why he dnfed he was last from the start
I used to respect him a lot watching him win multiple nat xc titles at Falkirk (not this year I guess) and his 5ks on the track. Then he did the GSR and showboated as he jogged in which I thought was a bit naff. Wasn't sure whether to cheer or jeer to be honest.
His taste in women is dubious too, has to be said.
Fawkirk bound wrote:
I used to respect him a lot watching him win multiple nat xc titles at Falkirk (not this year I guess) and his 5ks on the track. Then he did the GSR and showboated as he jogged in which I thought was a bit naff. Wasn't sure whether to cheer or jeer to be honest.
His taste in women is dubious too, has to be said.
The guy sports a homoerotic micro tache and applies fake tan. You should have had him flagged as "a bit naff" long ago.
Probably overdue for Sharp to have another good cry on television about how unfair it is that everyone else is faster than her. Or her classic rant that faster people shouldn’t be allowed to enter because she hadn’t trained to beat them.
At least Jenny Meadows had the self respect to see the light and move over to pacemaking (and did a good job, it should be said).
Fawkirk bound wrote:
His taste in women is dubious too, has to be said.
well...
Ohh bitty Ziii wrote:
Both of these athletes moved to the USA under the guidance of Terrance Mahon. Yet both of these athletes are going backwards in their careers. Granted Butchart had a surgery last season but he’s just out of sync in races I’ve seen and Sharp is not the athlete she once was.
Is it time for them to go back to Scotland or time for them to split up and find new partners and coaches?
Sharp hasn't run well since 2016 - 1:57.69. Don't know why, I guess not because of the change in coach. 1:57 isn't B list, but the way she's running these past couple of years certainly is!
Jdhkcehjbccvnnn wrote:
Has Mahon trained Olympic and world champions previously?
I could be wrong, but I think his best performer was Morgan Uceny, who won the DL title in 2011, and was rated #1 in the world by T&FN. I'm not sure he coached either Willard or Kastor in their prime.
He's a w**** and she's a b****
He dropped out yesterday in the 1500. I used to be a fan but he has become cocky as hell, some great results have got to his head.
I also heard and have picked up on the fact butchart-sharp don’t like Laura Muir. This was pre last year British champs 800 fiasco.
What is that about