Lukas V
Lukas V
1990s California wrote:
Lots of truth re: Stanford on this thread. How about....
Julia Stamps
Michael Stember
Balkman (forget his first name but he was the D1 CIF X-country champ in 1992–14:50 something at Woodward, did nothing at Stanford).
Troof. For comparison, refer to the D1 CIF X-country champ in 1993–15:02 at Woodward I believe. Though he did run 14:50 something a few weeks later at the western region Footlocker qualifying meet at woodward—but he didn’t win. Can’t seem to remember this guys name. Didn’t go to Stanford though. I think he may have gone to some place in SoCal....
Chelsey Sveinsson....I'm not sure she even ran one race at Stanford....And by her junior year she was on the rugby team
Erin Davis won Footlocker as a freshman, and it was all downhill from there...
Aislynn Cuffe . Caught that ole Stanford VooDoo. ??
de la salle grad wrote:
Richard Kimball, world jr XC champ.
Kimball also ran 4:02/8:46 for the mile and 2-mile in 1974 which was the fastest one day double until German Fernandez in 2008. He went to Oregon State, got sick with mono, and transferred to San Jose State. The only result for for him I could find was a 3:47 1500 in 1977.
Hounddogharrier wrote:
Aislynn Cuffe . Caught that ole Stanford VooDoo. ??
Idk what's up with this board and Stanford, but Aisling Cuffe ran 15:11 in college. I would hardly call that disappearing.
Stember? Uh, he went to the Olympics!
How bout Thomas Ratcliffe?
Injury ending but still meets the definition.
Melody Fairchild has to be on the last.
In 1991, she set the American Junior and National High School record in the indoor 3,000 meters.
Won Footlocker twice. Was the first sub10 2 miler
And while still in high school, she finished third in the 1991 World Junior XC.
Then went to Oregon and did almost nothing.
gahagand wrote:
Hounddogharrier wrote:
Aislynn Cuffe . Caught that ole Stanford VooDoo. ??
Idk what's up with this board and Stanford, but Aisling Cuffe ran 15:11 in college. I would hardly call that disappearing.
She was like an 8 time national champion in high school . She runs one race up to her potential at Stanford and it’s a cause to celebrate. Shows just how low the bar is set there. She can’t even say she matured later .
dfsdf wrote:
Melody Fairchild has to be on the last.
In 1991, she set the American Junior and National High School record in the indoor 3,000 meters.
Won Footlocker twice. Was the first sub10 2 miler
And while still in high school, she finished third in the 1991 World Junior XC.
Then went to Oregon and did almost nothing.
Well, Her mom died the summer after she graduated, she was also going through puberty at the time and starting to feel the effects before heading to Eugene. Can't blame the ducks for that. She also trained too hard in HS in my opinion, the bar was raised to high too soon.
Eli Krahn is the national freshman record holder in the 1600 running 4:09 and 3200 in 8:58. He is a jr in college at Princeton and still holds his PRs from freshman year of high school. So it does happen to boys who train too much too early also.
The worst part about Krahn is that he wasn’t training too hard early. His high school runs 35 miles per week, if I remember articles about him correctly. Just caught the injury bug. This last season at Princeton was much more successful than those prior. He may well break those PRs.
Karissa Schweizer’s brother ran 1:50 and 4:05 finishing 3rd in the dream mile behind interestingly only Salisbury and Ratcliffe. He is at Notre Dame but hasn’t done much.
Franklyn Sanchez ran a couple decent races in college but was hurt otherwise. Such a shame because that 8:49 indoor 2-mile against Andy Powell back in the late 90s was so inspiring as a fellow high schooler. I’d love to know what Sanchez is up to now.
The Point - it is hard to remain on top for very long.
Part training (and over-training)?
Part luck
The more you go through high school lists, the more obvious it becomes the best at any given time will not be the best 5yrs later.
ShipYard wrote:
The worst part about Krahn is that he wasn’t training too hard early. His high school runs 35 miles per week, if I remember articles about him correctly. Just caught the injury bug. This last season at Princeton was much more successful than those prior. He may well break those PRs.
Training hard isn't about miles run, it is about intensity.
Stillwater has a very good coach, but they train hard, intensity focused. Better off running a little more and running a little less intensity.
Minnesota is one of the states that burns out many good runners by starting them in JH. Krahn was running varsity XC and track in JH. He peaked in 9th grade instead of 12th grade which would have been a more normal progression. The Ping sisters are next. We will have forgotten about them in 5 years, just like most people have never heard of Krahn even though we all would have predicted him to be the next Webb after his frosh year.