Australia is continuing to produce great junior performances. In the last week 17 year old Luke Young runs 3:44 and 15 year old Tom Palfrey runs 3:53 for 1500m.
Australia is continuing to produce great junior performances. In the last week 17 year old Luke Young runs 3:44 and 15 year old Tom Palfrey runs 3:53 for 1500m.
vegemite toast wrote:
Australia is continuing to produce great junior performances. In the last week 17 year old Luke Young runs 3:44 and 15 year old Tom Palfrey runs 3:53 for 1500m.
It's great stuff. Youngsters from outside Africa are now starting their careers with real belief that they can one day compete at the top (and clean). It's turning into a truly global sport again.
I predicted this a couple of years ago when I first came to the forum, and I've been prove right as usual.
In GB we have Scotland's Kane Elliott who ran 3:46 as a16 year old last summer and has already ran 3:50 indoors this season. Max Burgin the same age ran 3:47 last summer (and of course a 1:47 age world record for 800m).
The best thing is that it will do wonders for clean Kenyan superstars (or should be superstars) like Tim.
The profile of middle-distance running will be raised x 10 over the next decade by guys like Jakob and now the youngsters who are following in his wake. If Tim can stay on top he will be a household name and probably earn millions more than he would if he just beat fellow East Africans who the wider sports fan population could no longer trust to be clean and had no interest in.
The key with Aussie juniors is in my opinion is the top quality coaching.
Luke Young is a gun, that kid has a big future
Coevett wrote:
The best thing is that it will do wonders for clean Kenyan superstars (or should be superstars) like Tim.
The profile of middle-distance running will be raised x 10 over the next decade by guys like Jakob and now the youngsters who are following in his wake. If Tim can stay on top he will be a household name and probably earn millions more than he would if he just beat fellow East Africans who the wider sports fan population could no longer trust to be clean and had no interest in.
Who is Tim?
Those are really fast but not faster than the US ran last year.
Age and running performance are very relative. It has to be taken into account if someone is physically more or less mature for his age, and how long and how much he was training already.
A 3:53 from a 15 year old is more impressive than a 3:53 from a 24 year old runner, but in the end it is still just a 3:53. You can not say now, if he will be anywhere near world class in the future. Too many examples have shown the opposite.
timman wrote:
Who is Tim?
The best 1500m runner in the world. Potato Tim.
actually one one HS runner ran faster than 3:44 which was brodey hastey with his 3:43 at the portland distance festival
So you agree but put it in the form of an argument? Yes the US had a faster guy. What was your point?
Those are obviously very good times, but not internationally noteworthy, even for young men of their respective ages.
Agreement with caveat wrote:
So you agree but put it in the form of an argument? Yes the US had a faster guy. What was your point?
He is trying to say it isnt noteworthy. The US had many kids run faster equivalent times at those ages, especially the 15 year old.
timman wrote:
Coevett wrote:
The best thing is that it will do wonders for clean Kenyan superstars (or should be superstars) like Tim.
The profile of middle-distance running will be raised x 10 over the next decade by guys like Jakob and now the youngsters who are following in his wake. If Tim can stay on top he will be a household name and probably earn millions more than he would if he just beat fellow East Africans who the wider sports fan population could no longer trust to be clean and had no interest in.
Who is Tim?
Timothy Cheruiyot.
Coevett wrote:
vegemite toast wrote:
Australia is continuing to produce great junior performances. In the last week 17 year old Luke Young runs 3:44 and 15 year old Tom Palfrey runs 3:53 for 1500m.
It's great stuff. Youngsters from outside Africa are now starting their careers with real belief that they can one day compete at the top (and clean). It's turning into a truly global sport again.
I predicted this a couple of years ago when I first came to the forum, and I've been prove right as usual.
In GB we have Scotland's Kane Elliott who ran 3:46 as a16 year old last summer and has already ran 3:50 indoors this season. Max Burgin the same age ran 3:47 last summer (and of course a 1:47 age world record for 800m).
It's like you are incapable of writing a sentence without including the word 'Africa' or 'Kenya' in it.
You might have a disease.
ex-runner wrote:
Coevett wrote:
It's great stuff. Youngsters from outside Africa are now starting their careers with real belief that they can one day compete at the top (and clean). It's turning into a truly global sport again.
I predicted this a couple of years ago when I first came to the forum, and I've been prove right as usual.
In GB we have Scotland's Kane Elliott who ran 3:46 as a16 year old last summer and has already ran 3:50 indoors this season. Max Burgin the same age ran 3:47 last summer (and of course a 1:47 age world record for 800m).
It's like you are incapable of writing a sentence without including the word 'Africa' or 'Kenya' in it.
You might have a disease.
lol
Drainthefecesswamp said: He is trying to say it isnt noteworthy. The US had many kids run faster equivalent times at those ages, especially the 15 year old.
it isn't remotely obvious why you puppies have to turn everything into a b1tch slapping contest but in this particular instance you happen to not only be dim, but wrong.
in the United States last year exactly one boy under 18-years of age ran under 3:55 for 1500m. Daniel Maton (dob 2 Jan 2001, and therefore 17-years-old) ran 3:50.07. the next fastest was Cole Sprout who ran 3:55.48. I don't have Sprout's dob so I don't know how old he is, just that he is under-18. they are the only 2 under-18's in the US who went under 3:56 last year.
therefore, the US does not have "many kids run faster equivalent times at those ages," and at the moment does not even have one.
Australia, on the other hand, had four.
Luke Young (23 Nov 2001) 3:48.89 Melbourne 8 Mar 2018
Oli Raymond (2001) 3:51.53 Sydney 29 Nov 2018
Luke Shaw (7 Dec 2001) 3:51.73 25 Nov 2018
Angus Beer (2002) 3:53.55 Sydney 29 Nov 2018
and a further 3 more faster than Cole Sprout.
Adam Spencer 3:54.32 (2001) Melbourne 18 Jan 2018
Sam Clifford 3:54.65 (2002) Cairns 08 Dec 2018
Aidan Roberts (2002) Melbourne 20 Dec 2018
facts matter.
cheers.
Coevett wrote:
In GB we have...
Steve, as you now live in Australia you're no longer entitled to use "we" in reference to GB.
Ovett and out.
Seb. wrote:
Coevett wrote:
In GB we have...
Steve, as you now live in Australia you're no longer entitled to use "we" in reference to GB.
Ovett and out.
rofl
Can't for the life of me remember the great junior 1500 m runner from the early 80"s. Ran with him a few times at Falls Creek. Stephen Foley maybe? Did he ever do anything as a senior?