• Best advertisement for Vaporflys I've yet to see
      • Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 1:27AM
      • Best advertisement for Vaporflys I've yet to see
      • This was in the Dubai thread, and I thought it deserved its own thread.

        https://imgur.com/nsytpbN

        Discus.
    • std deviation
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 10:11AM - in reply to Hardloper
      • std deviation
      • Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        Who is Herpes Negasa?
    • Seriously mate?
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 11:04AM - in reply to Hardloper
      • Seriously mate?
      • Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        6 minute PR**
    • Hardloper
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      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 11:19AM - in reply to Seriously mate?
      • Hardloper
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      • Seriously mate? wrote:

        Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        6 minute PR**

        Not sure what you're getting at. It was a 4% PR, which is funny because it's the name of the shoe and assumed to be a marketing gimmick because elites obviously wouldn't improve 4% with the shoe.
    • energy boosted
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 11:34AM - in reply to Seriously mate?
      • energy boosted
      • Seriously mate? wrote:

        Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        6 minute PR**

        How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground. The Adidas advert had those ball bearings bouncing off the boost foam multiple times to show the energy return compared with other midsoles. Surely that would work better than a carbon plate?!

        I guess I was more suckered by the Adidas marketing campaign...
    • dfdfdfs
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 11:42AM - in reply to energy boosted
      • dfdfdfs
      • energy boosted wrote:

        Seriously mate? wrote:

        Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        6 minute PR**

        How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground. The Adidas advert had those ball bearings bouncing off the boost foam multiple times to show the energy return compared with other midsoles. Surely that would work better than a carbon plate?!

        I guess I was more suckered by the Adidas marketing campaign...

        The benefit from the vaporflys isn't to do with the plate...
    • Snarkatine Sid
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 12:27PM - in reply to energy boosted
      • Snarkatine Sid
      • energy boosted wrote:

        Seriously mate? wrote:

        Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        6 minute PR**

        How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground. The Adidas advert had those ball bearings bouncing off the boost foam multiple times to show the energy return compared with other midsoles. Surely that would work better than a carbon plate?!

        I guess I was more suckered by the Adidas marketing campaign...

        I've tried both. The difference in amazing ! The adidas shoe is soft, but it feels like the return is lost in (no better word for it) misdirection. The Nike shoe is laser focused on forward return. I've only done training runs in them to test, but the Nike shoe is close to 30secs per mile faster.
    • Warren Buffett
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      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 12:40PM - in reply to Snarkatine Sid
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      • Was the link to the pic taken down? Can someone repost?
    • Cheetah shoes
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 12:49PM - in reply to Warren Buffett
      • Cheetah shoes
      • The difference is the super thick super soft foam with the embedded leaf spring. It's the combination that gives the advantage.
    • Rounding error
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 1:53PM - in reply to Hardloper
      • Rounding error
      • Hardloper wrote:
        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"
        Really, it was closer to a 5% improvement.
    • That swoosh life
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 2:20PM - in reply to dfdfdfs
      • That swoosh life
      • dfdfdfs wrote:

        energy boosted wrote:

        Seriously mate? wrote:

        Hardloper wrote:

        Better title would be "2:09 Adidas sponsored runner Herpasa Negasa wears Vaporflys and runs a 4% PR of 2:03"

        6 minute PR**

        How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground. The Adidas advert had those ball bearings bouncing off the boost foam multiple times to show the energy return compared with other midsoles. Surely that would work better than a carbon plate?!

        I guess I was more suckered by the Adidas marketing campaign...

        The benefit from the vaporflys isn't to do with the plate...

        +1
    • Shane33
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      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 2:21PM - in reply to Warren Buffett
      • Shane33
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      • Warren Buffett wrote:

        Was the link to the pic taken down? Can someone repost?

        https://youtu.be/Uoncl8ype-M?t=8589

        Had this on in the background and was pretty easy to find at the end.
    • No problem but`
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 3:08PM - in reply to Warren Buffett
      • No problem but`
      • Warren Buffett wrote:

        Was the link to the pic taken down? Can someone repost?

        The shoes are Adidas.
    • immunorunner
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      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 3:57PM - in reply to No problem but`
      • immunorunner
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      • I'm not so sure that the shoes were the major factor in his ability to suddenly drop 6 minutes from his marathon PR. It looks like he has been training at a high level for years. He has run 2:10 on three different occasions from 2013 to 2016 before improving to a 2:09 last year...then a 2:03.

        Almost as if his performance was suddenly and recently "enhanced".
    • Adidadadida
      • RE: Negesa (2nd place and Adidas runner) ran Dubai in Nike Vaporfly Flyknits dyed red to (poorly) mask the Nike Logo 1/25/2019 5:27PM - in reply to energy boosted
      • Adidadadida
      • energy boosted wrote:

        How is this possible, I thought the Adidas boost midsoles literally stored energy in those TPU balls to fire it back into each running stride when the foot left the ground.

        Ahhh. You misheard. Its the left foot only. Not when each foot left the ground. The right foot gets no energy return and actually makes you turn in circles. Great for track.