Gabrielle Union says to her stepsons wade’s kids not to be 'alone in a room with a white girl' or 'in Miami, a Cuban girl'
If I didn’t know better I would say this is profiling, racist and prejudice. I wonder what would happen if some celebrity white woman would say that she tells her daughter not to be alone in a room with a black boy, or in Miami with a Cuban boy”.
Dwade wrote:
Gabrielle Union says to her stepsons wade’s kids not to be 'alone in a room with a white girl' or 'in Miami, a Cuban girl'
If I didn’t know better I would say this is profiling, racist and prejudice. I wonder what would happen if some celebrity white woman would say that she tells her daughter not to be alone in a room with a black boy, or in Miami with a Cuban boy”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4841426/Gabrielle-Union-dishes-Chris-Howard-Dwayne-Wade.html
What? Sorry, I didn't read any of that on account of the nipple.
That’s funny, I thought conservatives would be happy if race mixing was discouraged, no? Jk.
I think she’s just trying to give them some practical advice to avoid legal trouble. Probably should extend it to all girls but the point is that those mentioned are more likely to be ‘protected’ by police.
A moderate wrote:
That’s funny, I thought conservatives would be happy if race mixing was discouraged, no? Jk.
I think she’s just trying to give them some practical advice to avoid legal trouble. Probably should extend it to all girls but the point is that those mentioned are more likely to be ‘protected’ by police.
You seriously don't see the racism in what she's saying?
I too love KFC potato wedges but I just had a KFC $3 bowl today for lunch and that thing was incredibly good.
Ft Lauderdale wrote:
A moderate wrote:
That’s funny, I thought conservatives would be happy if race mixing was discouraged, no? Jk.
I think she’s just trying to give them some practical advice to avoid legal trouble. Probably should extend it to all girls but the point is that those mentioned are more likely to be ‘protected’ by police.
You seriously don't see the racism in what she's saying?
Of course, not! Sounds like good advice to me. You clearly don't have a black boy for a child or maybe you don't live in America. You probably think the legal system and the police are there to protect and serve all citizens without regards to race. Ask your black friends about the advice they got from their parents.
Isn't this just a more particular version of the Billy Graham (aka. Mike Pence) rule? (Particularized to the realities of being a black male?)
Take out the racial aspect and I'd assume it would be the left that gets mad. It seems like reasonable advice that boils down to 'be careful who you trust, and being alone with a girl means giving power to her in your current circumstances' to me.
I was actually just thinking of how frustrating it is that I've come down pretty hard on the 'conservative' side on the Kavanaugh and Covington '[scissors](
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/opinion/covington-catholic-march-for-life.html
)', but a lot of conservatives don't seem to extend their correct reasoning on those issues to other similar ones, like, say, male black teenagers interaction with the police. It's like they're being taught an object lesson and refuse to learn it? (I do understand that some have actually learned it, or didn't need teaching in the first place).
Dwade wrote:
Gabrielle Union says to her stepsons wade’s kids not to be 'alone in a room with a white girl' or 'in Miami, a Cuban girl'
If I didn’t know better I would say this is profiling, racist and prejudice. I wonder what would happen if some celebrity white woman would say that she tells her daughter not to be alone in a room with a black boy, or in Miami with a Cuban boy”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4841426/Gabrielle-Union-dishes-Chris-Howard-Dwayne-Wade.html
As a left leaning independent, white/native American father I tell my college freshman son the same thing. Too many young women are being raised by borderline/narcissistic PD mothers to be borderline/narcissistic PD adults themselves. This issue is far more widespread than most are willing to admit. This isn't about race or prejudice, it's about learning to survive and a dangerously dysfunctional world we've allowed to metastasize around us all.
terrordome wrote:
Of course, not! Sounds like good advice to me. You clearly don't have a black boy for a child or maybe you don't live in America. You probably think the legal system and the police are there to protect and serve all citizens without regards to race. Ask your black friends about the advice they got from their parents.
It would be good advice is she said that her son shouldn't be alone in a room with a "girl."
As soon as you put a racial modifier (i.e., "white" or "Cuban") then you are, very clearly, being racist.
I would never tell my daughter or son to avoid being in a situation with someone based on their race.
That is, by definition, racism.
alpha wrote:
As a left leaning independent, white/native American father I tell my college freshman son the same thing. Too many young women are being raised by borderline/narcissistic PD mothers to be borderline/narcissistic PD adults themselves. This issue is far more widespread than most are willing to admit. This isn't about race or prejudice, it's about learning to survive and a dangerously dysfunctional world we've allowed to metastasize around us all.
I'm with you when it comes to politics (moderate/liberal independent).
Do you add a racial qualifier to your advice (i.e., "never be alone with a black/Asian/Cuban/Russian girl") or do you just tell him to be careful when he is alone with a girl?
The former would be racist. The latter would be solid fatherly advice that I will be sure to mimick in 17 years.
aoxomoxoa wrote:
alpha wrote:
As a left leaning independent, white/native American father I tell my college freshman son the same thing. Too many young women are being raised by borderline/narcissistic PD mothers to be borderline/narcissistic PD adults themselves. This issue is far more widespread than most are willing to admit. This isn't about race or prejudice, it's about learning to survive and a dangerously dysfunctional world we've allowed to metastasize around us all.
I'm with you when it comes to politics (moderate/liberal independent).
Do you add a racial qualifier to your advice (i.e., "never be alone with a black/Asian/Cuban/Russian girl") or do you just tell him to be careful when he is alone with a girl?
The former would be racist. The latter would be solid fatherly advice that I will be sure to mimick in 17 years.
No, not about race. Just to be careful around women in general.
Dwade wrote:
Gabrielle Union says to her stepsons wade’s kids not to be 'alone in a room with a white girl' or 'in Miami, a Cuban girl'
If I didn’t know better I would say this is profiling, racist and prejudice. I wonder what would happen if some celebrity white woman would say that she tells her daughter not to be alone in a room with a black boy, or in Miami with a Cuban boy”.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4841426/Gabrielle-Union-dishes-Chris-Howard-Dwayne-Wade.html
Smart statement. I've always said it's important to recognize patterns and probabilities.
If I'm looking for a guy sending bombs to university professors along with 5,000-page manifestos to newspapers I'm looking for a white male nerd. (and potentially a white male nerd who runs and who is not killing it with the ladies).
That is not racism.
That is teaching young black boys the reality of being black in the United States and the repercussions one can face from innocent actions.
wtfbbq wrote:
That is not racism.
That is teaching young black boys the reality of being black in the United States and the repercussions one can face from innocent actions.
Agreed. It's really a reaction to racism that's already present.
It's not racist. It's smart. Wall Street has rules that say men can NEVER go to lunch with a female alone, never go into an office with a female alone, sit next to a female colleague on a plane, or even get a hotel room on the same floor as a female colleague.
The reality is this: sexual assault is very common. BUT women lying about sexual assault is becoming very common. It's better to be smart than in prison.
aoxomoxoa wrote:
alpha wrote:
As a left leaning independent, white/native American father I tell my college freshman son the same thing. Too many young women are being raised by borderline/narcissistic PD mothers to be borderline/narcissistic PD adults themselves. This issue is far more widespread than most are willing to admit. This isn't about race or prejudice, it's about learning to survive and a dangerously dysfunctional world we've allowed to metastasize around us all.
I'm with you when it comes to politics (moderate/liberal independent).
Do you add a racial qualifier to your advice (i.e., "never be alone with a black/Asian/Cuban/Russian girl") or do you just tell him to be careful when he is alone with a girl?
The former would be racist. The latter would be solid fatherly advice that I will be sure to mimick in 17 years.
You have to understand the side from which the racism in this situation is actually coming.
Do you think the mother is being racist and saying that White women are more likely to lie to the police about a situation, or do you think she's saying that a White girls' allegations against a Black man are far more likely to be taken seriously Vs a Black girl making allegations against a Black man, which the police are more likely to brush off.
I think the mother is most likely saying the latter points.
Here's one good reason why this is sound advice. His name is Emmett Till.
And in case you were wondering what he did...nothing!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/emmett-till-book-carolyn-bryant-confession
As a right leaning white male, I have zero problem with this. Regardless of whether you think it's racist, as a parent, you tell your kids the reality of the world as you see it. If she thinks that is the right advice to give her kid, so what? Plus, there are a number of cases of innocent black males imprisoned based on false rape allegations by white girls. I don't like seeing things through the prism of race, but there it is.
Let’s runners chose hate to women before hate before hate to black pleople
