Slowest person you know who’s life revolves around running ?

Good for him, he loves the sport and improving himself. Pro tip for you: work on being less of a judgy dick.

I guess that I’m that guy. I run 60 or more miles per week. I am a 24 min 5K, 50 min 10K, 1:50 half & and 4 hour hobby jogger. I love running. I have a wall running shoes and dresser full running clothes. I love hanging out with runners and talking about running. I will not apologize for being that guy either. ?

For the love of running I am thankful.

So who is the slowest who really loves the sport? Someday I hope that it will be me.

I don’t understand how I am being a judgy dick? I am simply observing. I am happy for him and the fact he his fitter than 99% of people because he worked his ass for for it. Observing these people makes me grateful to be lucky enough to be running in the 16s. I am sure there are 22:xx minute runners who feel the same about 20:xx runners and so on.

Sid22 wrote:

I don’t understand how I am being a judgy dick? I am simply observing. I am happy for him and the fact he his fitter than 99% of people because he worked his ass for for it. Observing these people makes me grateful to be lucky enough to be running in the 16s. I am sure there are 22:xx minute runners who feel the same about 20:xx runners and so on.

Or 14:00 guys about 16:00. Don’t think you are anything close to special sonny.

Hmm, so this guy is obsessed with running, and you go to the main running website and trash him in a way where it will be clear if he reads this exactly who you and he are?

Other guy, if you're on here: sub 20 is an awesome goal. It's not slow at all; only by LetsRun standards is it even close. In fact, if you're a guy with this much dedication and you're within a minute of your lifetime goal, I'd love to see a thread that you update with your training for sub-20 and how the quest is going.

I literally never ... ever ... ever said I was. Jesus, people here are so hostile. Pretty sure there was a thread about that not too long ago, y’all need to go chill out and smoke a doobie or something, maybe I would be a 14:xx guy if I didn’t smoke so much of that, who knows?

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Of course you don't, darling. Else you wouldn't have posted that 1000-word judgement-filled post to begin with. 2nd Pro Tip: work on self-reflection and empathy.

Sid22 wrote:

I don’t understand how I am being a judgy dick?

Obviously I know that 20 minutes isn’t slow but I was just curious about how it was possible to run for that long, do doubles, highish mileage, workouts, be at a good weight, the full package basically and still not be close to 17-18 minutes at least, I suppose it went over my head a little bit but I didn’t want to be rude and ask him so I asked here.

Sid22 wrote:

I don’t understand how I am being a judgy dick? I am simply observing. I am happy for him and the fact he his fitter than 99% of people because he worked his ass for for it. Observing these people makes me grateful to be lucky enough to be running in the 16s. I am sure there are 22:xx minute runners who feel the same about 20:xx runners and so on.

Yeah, I get you're not trying to be negative. But it probably came off that way since you're so much faster and kind of made it sound like "whoa, that's pointless for him to be so into it."

But the original question is cool. Maybe we should rephrase it: "Do you know any people who aren't fast, or are even slow, but who put in the effort and the miles anyway?" I actually find it inspirational when someone slower than me works super hard. Kind of a "if that guy is willing to put in the hard work, who am I to sit here and waste my (relative) "talent"?"

Sid22 wrote:

I literally never ... ever ... ever said I was. Jesus, people here are so hostile. Pretty sure there was a thread about that not too long ago, y’all need to go chill out and smoke a doobie or something, maybe I would be a 14:xx guy if I didn’t smoke so much of that, who knows?

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You seem smug. Why would you even care? Some people aren’t as talented. Maybe if you worked harder you could accomplish something noteworth. In case you haven’t figured it out 16:00 is not fast, and if you don’t sork hard, that says more about your character than talent.

Wait, you actually wanted to ask him "why are you so damn slow?" but rudeness is what held you back? Amazing on many levels.

Sid22 wrote:

Obviously I know that 20 minutes isn’t slow but I was just curious about how it was possible to run for that long, do doubles, highish mileage, workouts, be at a good weight, the full package basically and still not be close to 17-18 minutes at least, I suppose it went over my head a little bit but I didn’t want to be rude and ask him so I asked here.

Douche bag

Sidd22, I get it that sometimes things just seem incredulous about this sport. We all get dialed into our little part of it and we come to believe that anyone could do what we have done if they only worked like i did....

Well, fact is, some people are dealt better genetic make-ups than others. Many discussions here about it, and yes, you can improve based on where you start, but there are limits and some people have issues that will impede them. Asthma might be one or just their metabolic constitution.

I think that is taken for granted for most here. But one avenue might be to run with the guy a few times now that you know him. I mean, the real question is 'is he really working and pushing himself hard enough?' If you ran with him you'd find out, and maybe even be inspired enough to help him out. How cool would that be? He's obviously been putting in the roadwork. You feel for the guy don't you? Maybe do him one and be the kind of guy you might respect on a certain level.

Just a thought....

I ran 14 minutes on almost no training. What’s wrong with the OP?

I'm so confused. Why is everyone anti-OP here? Do you think he's a troll? I mean I'm all for sticking up for the common man, but if the OP is correct that if the guys been running 60-70/week for 10 years how he could be north of 20 is a bit of an interesting mystery. I think it's impossible so OP must be trolling.

I was a slow runner as well. I ran 60 miles a week, sometimes doubling with tempo runs, progression runs, 400s, etc... depending on the time of year. But I guess the inability to race (mental?) coupled with flat feet, cold weather asthma and an atypical runner's body prevented me from running under 17:30 in a 5k, 30 minutes in a 5 miler and 37:30 in a 10k. These 3 personal bests were far better than my typical race results. Nevertheless I spent my life as a runner, coach and fan.

It's one thing to praise great talent or even to do some harmless bragging, but to criticize a guy who trains as hard as you do, who has probably reached his genetic potential, just because he most likely wasn't born with the talent you were?

That's why everyone's biting your head off.

Usually, it goes in the other direction. A typical LRC poster sees a bunch of slow people at a local road race. He assumes that they are not training seriously because they are so slow by his standard. Or they are training improperly out of ignorance.

And when other people point out that some people are not genetically as gifted as the OP, the OP claims he was nothing special when he was on his high school or college team. They are self-selected groups. But then the OP denies his HS teammates were any more talented than kids who played other sports.

We have seen this over and over on this board for so many years. Now it has been reversed.