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Who cares, other than Flotrack who over-hypes everything? 9:13 is maybe 30 seconds faster than Katelyn Tuohy could run. Unimpressive.
Jacob Hunter ran a 9:14.
A couple of LV guys that didn’t finish their 2018 XC season in their team’s top 7 ran a 9:30 or lower
Every time results for Sam Affolder are posted, someone - I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same blowhard each time - has to post idiotic drek about how unimpressive the effort was. Yeah, Affolder hasn't always delivered, but who, among us, wouldn't want his results this indoor season? Yep, FloTrack loves him and hypes him, but that sure isn't his fault! He's just competing at a high level and doing a great job of it, even if he's nowhere near to being the male equivalent of Katelyn Tuohy. Who IS?? (Drew Hunter isn't running for Loudoun Valley any longer.)
It's so easy on this forum to scoff at Affolder's 4:11 4xMile Relay anchor leg last night, run with a massive lead (and winning by over 37 seconds), followed by his nearly-three-second 9:11 2-Mile victory on Sunday. However, that moran who posted anti-Affolder garbage doesn't have a leg to stand on with his or her statement, regardless of whether the person is a 3:50 or 9:50 miler!
Even though Affolder isn't rocking to record times, I think he holds the country's #1 position at this point in the season in the 1600m and the 2-Mile, and he's currently 4th in the 1000m. That's N-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-L-Y. He's not too high in the all-time top lists, but let's just say the dude is doing pretty well this indoor season.
Saturday's anchor leg 4:11 split would, I think, put him atop this season's 1-Mile list, too. Yes, I know, it was a relay split, but the fact is, the guy has run impressive times in the 2018/19 indoor season, and it's only January. He has high-profile team commitments in relays - on one outrageously talented team - which will hurt his chances for bagging glory with ultra-fast times in individual invitational races. Thus, he may never match his brother Noah's times indoors. Maybe!
Let me remind that moran poster that Affolder is a member of TWO ALL-TIME #1 RECORDHOLDING INDOOR RELAY TEAMS, in the DMR (9:56.18, Carlisle HS, 2017) and the 4xMile (17:01.82 with Loudoun Valley HS, 2018), and he's a member of the ALL-TIME #2 RECORDHOLDING INDOOR 4x800m RELAY TEAM (7:39.30, Loudoun Valley HS, 2018).
Yeah, "unimpressive"...
The past tense of morun is moran wrote:
Every time results for Sam Affolder are posted, someone - I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same blowhard each time - has to post idiotic drek about how unimpressive the effort was. Yeah, Affolder hasn't always delivered, but who, among us, wouldn't want his results this indoor season? Yep, FloTrack loves him and hypes him, but that sure isn't his fault! He's just competing at a high level and doing a great job of it, even if he's nowhere near to being the male equivalent of Katelyn Tuohy. Who IS?? (Drew Hunter isn't running for Loudoun Valley any longer.)
It's so easy on this forum to scoff at Affolder's 4:11 4xMile Relay anchor leg last night, run with a massive lead (and winning by over 37 seconds), followed by his nearly-three-second 9:11 2-Mile victory on Sunday. However, that moran who posted anti-Affolder garbage doesn't have a leg to stand on with his or her statement, regardless of whether the person is a 3:50 or 9:50 miler!
Even though Affolder isn't rocking to record times, I think he holds the country's #1 position at this point in the season in the 1600m and the 2-Mile, and he's currently 4th in the 1000m. That's N-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-L-Y. He's not too high in the all-time top lists, but let's just say the dude is doing pretty well this indoor season.
Saturday's anchor leg 4:11 split would, I think, put him atop this season's 1-Mile list, too. Yes, I know, it was a relay split, but the fact is, the guy has run impressive times in the 2018/19 indoor season, and it's only January. He has high-profile team commitments in relays - on one outrageously talented team - which will hurt his chances for bagging glory with ultra-fast times in individual invitational races. Thus, he may never match his brother Noah's times indoors. Maybe!
Let me remind that moran poster that Affolder is a member of TWO ALL-TIME #1 RECORDHOLDING INDOOR RELAY TEAMS, in the DMR (9:56.18, Carlisle HS, 2017) and the 4xMile (17:01.82 with Loudoun Valley HS, 2018), and he's a member of the ALL-TIME #2 RECORDHOLDING INDOOR 4x800m RELAY TEAM (7:39.30, Loudoun Valley HS, 2018).
Yeah, "unimpressive"...
Wow, didn't meant to hit a nerve. Sorry. I just need someone to explain how a 9:11 is good. There must be 50+ kids who run that every year?
hate to say it wrote:
Wow, didn't meant to hit a nerve. Sorry. I just need someone to explain how a 9:11 is good. There must be 50+ kids who run that every year?
You should be more careful with your words, then. 9:11 is really good, just not great. What runners produce great, or even good, results every single time? How good was Affolder's 9:11? Well, for what it's worth, it leads the country in January. That's pretty darn good/
50+ kids have not run that time this season, indoors. Only one has, so far - Sam Affolder. There are two months to go before the New Balance Nationals. Granted the 2-Mile isn't run frequently, but the fact remains that Sam Affolder is at the top of the list. I'll call it a good time, even if you can't.
The top 10 times in the 2-Mile so far this indoor season:
1 9:11.74 SAM AFFOLDER VA Loudoun Valley
2 9:14.45 ALEX MAIER TX Flower Mound
3 9:14.55 JACOB HUNTER VA Loudoun Valley
4 9:14.73 ELDAD MULUGETA MD Northwood High School
5 9:15.56 RISHABH PRAKASH MA Burlington High School
6 9:19.55 TYLER BERG NY Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake
7 9:20.93 LUKE TEWALT DC Washington Latin Public Charter HS
8 9:21.64 CONNOR WELLS VA Loudoun Valley
9 9:21.79 MILLER ANDERSON CT William Hall High School
10 9:22.05 OBSAA FEDA MD Northwood High School
This 9:11 was Affolder's second race in less than 18 hours, and not his only race of the meet. Maybe, just maybe, the 4xMile 4:11 took something out of him, but what can't be denied is that HE WON BY NEARLY THREE SECONDS. In his interview following the 4xMile, seen on FloTrack, he mentioned hamstring tightness during his mile, too. Possibly his 9:11 was not at full effort.
Bottom line: Affolder ran two races. He crossed the finish line first in two races. Neither race was close. Kudos to the lad, even if the armchair critics think that if a runner doesn't break 9, the effort can't be graded even a "B". I don't think he cried himself to sleep because he didn't produce a Tuohyesque result!
One last little bit of "unimpressive" trivia about Sam Affolder's convincing at-the-front-from-the-start 2-Mile on Friday evening:
According to the MileSplit conversion tool, his 9:11.74 equates to...
>> a 9:08.54 3200m. That would currently rank #2 in the nation.
>> an 8:31.02 3000m. That would currently rank #3 in the nation.
Those who want to see how dominantly Affolder won the 2-Mile with his "unimpressive" 9:11.74, and who have paid the piper for the FloTrack viewing rights, can see the video here:
https://va.milesplit.com/videos/327895
Pay attention to Jacob Hunter's huge push to take second.
It's unbelievable how much the azztolder family hypes their kid. I hope they feel the regret when they realize he won't cut it in the ncaa.
27 indoor in 2018 and 150 outdoor.
The azzfolder mafia posts again wrote:
It's unbelievable how much the azztolder family hypes their kid. I hope they feel the regret when they realize he won't cut it in the ncaa.
That "azztolder family" - hoo be these alleged people?
Another family, the Affolder family - comprised of blood kin, teammates of Sam A, and his non-FloTrack supporters far and wide - doesn't hype this kid one bit. FloTrack people do, sometimes in excess, but it's often warranted by Affolder's recent record, at the time.
I guess The azzfolder mafia's crystal ball is all polished and in working order, knowing, as he claims, that Sam Affolder won't amount to squat at the NCAA level. I wish he or she would tell me how my Microsoft stock will fare next week.
Predicting this high school senior's ultimate success at the NCAA level is about as accurate as estimating how he'll do as a Masters runner one day. All I can predict now is great potential for the short-term running future of Sam Affolder, just a high school senior, in the waning days of his high school career.
milesplit guru wrote:
27 indoor in 2018 and 150 outdoor.
WTF??? Care to elaborate, swami?
He said there must be 50 guys per year running 9:11. I just told him how many did it in 2018.
Milesplit guru wrote:
He said there must be 50 guys per year running 9:11. I just told him how many did it in 2018.
Now that you've posted an explanation, we fully understand what you meant. Thanks for the clarification, sahib.
Of course, those 27 indoor times - indoors is all we should be concerned with here - were the total at the end of the indoor season, not for the 19th of January in the 2018 indoor season. It will be no surprise to see Affolder's 9:11 fall down the list by the end of the current season, especially since the New Balance Nationals Indoors have a 2 Mile for the boys. Kids tend to try to peak for their state meets and then NBNI, but the 2 Mile distance isn't common at states. But at NBNI, the lucky boys who can make it to New York (not feasible for so many in this huge country) have a chance crush a good 2 mile.
With relay duties, I bet Affolder doesn't run another 2 Mile this season.
Some day you need to fess up little noah.
The past tense of morun is moran wrote:
hate to say it wrote:
Wow, didn't meant to hit a nerve. Sorry. I just need someone to explain how a 9:11 is good. There must be 50+ kids who run that every year?
You should be more careful with your words, then. 9:11 is really good, just not great. What runners produce great, or even good, results every single time? How good was Affolder's 9:11? Well, for what it's worth, it leads the country in January. That's pretty darn good/
50+ kids have not run that time this season, indoors. Only one has, so far - Sam Affolder. There are two months to go before the New Balance Nationals. Granted the 2-Mile isn't run frequently, but the fact remains that Sam Affolder is at the top of the list. I'll call it a good time, even if you can't.
The top 10 times in the 2-Mile so far this indoor season:
1 9:11.74 SAM AFFOLDER VA Loudoun Valley
2 9:14.45 ALEX MAIER TX Flower Mound
3 9:14.55 JACOB HUNTER VA Loudoun Valley
4 9:14.73 ELDAD MULUGETA MD Northwood High School
5 9:15.56 RISHABH PRAKASH MA Burlington High School
6 9:19.55 TYLER BERG NY Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake
7 9:20.93 LUKE TEWALT DC Washington Latin Public Charter HS
8 9:21.64 CONNOR WELLS VA Loudoun Valley
9 9:21.79 MILLER ANDERSON CT William Hall High School
10 9:22.05 OBSAA FEDA MD Northwood High School
This 9:11 was Affolder's second race in less than 18 hours, and not his only race of the meet. Maybe, just maybe, the 4xMile 4:11 took something out of him, but what can't be denied is that HE WON BY NEARLY THREE SECONDS. In his interview following the 4xMile, seen on FloTrack, he mentioned hamstring tightness during his mile, too. Possibly his 9:11 was not at full effort.
Bottom line: Affolder ran two races. He crossed the finish line first in two races. Neither race was close. Kudos to the lad, even if the armchair critics think that if a runner doesn't break 9, the effort can't be graded even a "B". I don't think he cried himself to sleep because he didn't produce a Tuohyesque result!
Neither race was close?
He crossed the line ahead Jacob & Eldad Mulugeta (from Northwood) by like, 3 seconds. If anything, I'm more impressed that LV had 5 guys run sub 9:30, if anything.
Maier won his race by around 10 seconds, and he ran his about 2-weeks ago.
hate to say it wrote:
Wow, didn't meant to hit a nerve. Sorry. I just need someone to explain how a 9:11 is good. There must be 50+ kids who run that every year?
Here I'll explain it
It's mid January. It was a full 2 miles. 9:11 would have tied for 10th in the country last year for 2 miles indoors. It would be 3rd if you take out the times that kids ran in March at New Balance Indoor Nationals.
A great effort and time for this part of the season.
Huh? Wha? 'Splainin' Needed! wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, sahib.
dude i'm dying lmao
Not Noah but he is here all the time wrote:
Some day you need to fess up little noah.
Apparently you and that azzfolder mafia troller - one and the same person? - have supernatural powers. Azzfolder mafia dude can see the future (NCAA results) and has hinted that the Affolder family is writing those pro-Sam posts, while you can see that Noah Affolder is on LetsRun all the time!
Please use your superhero skills to end drug abuse among track & field/distance runners on Planet Earth. You'll get toilet stalls named after you at a McDonalds of your choice if, I mean when, you succeed. And streets shall be named in your honor in Paducah, KY (near the National Quilt Museum).
This season's 2:27(1000m), 4:11 mile split, and 9:11 are impressive times, but like any elite athlete, when they have performed better in the past, had early success, or are the younger sibling of a highly successful runner, the bar for expectations is going to be elevated in comparison to other athletes who might run that same time.
Sam ran 1:57 for 800m and 4:25 for the mile in 8th grade in New York.
He ran 4:09 (indoor, mile) and 9:02 (outdoor 3200m), as a sophomore, after making Footlocker Nationals that fall for Carlisle High School in Pennsylvania.
Those things certainly raise the expectations and you can see why people might be critical when he gets national publicity for running "only" 9:11.
Meh