Can a 5 hour marathoner qualify for Boston

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5 years ago 01/13/2019 10:17pm EST

I ran fist marathon in 5:15 in 2007- cramped last 6 in 85 degree heat walked the last 6

2nd marathon - 4:05 - 2016

3rd marathon - 3:52 - 2018

4th marathon - 4:15 on no training just one 13 miler wanted to run in hometown - 2018

- Used internet runners world plan marathon #1. Used beginner plan Hal Higdon marathon2, and adjusted plan to include 3 20 milers for marathon3. No training marathon 4 just base of 15 miles per week.

- I know somewhere I've ran a 5 k in under 20 min in 2007 or so, and have run a 10 k in 41:35 in 2014.

I'm 37 now and did no serious training for the 5k except recreational 3 and 4 mile runs and some 200 meter hill repeats on a few occasions.

I did 400 m x 4 one time prior to the 10 k in 2014 but was in the midst of training for my first half marathon in 2014 when I ran my 10 k pr listed. Ran the half in 1:42

Long term years out goal would be Boston qualifier, wondering if anyone thinks that's possible.

5 years ago 01/13/2019 10:28pm EST

re: some day I'll be faster

Are you a man or a woman? Obviously you have less improvement needed if you are female.

What is your current height and weight? If you have excess weight you can get faster both by improving fitness and losing weight.

Can you tolerate high volume training, say 75 MPW? ( built up over time)

I think most people can BQ if they lose weight and progressively increase training over a couple years.

5 years ago 01/13/2019 10:38pm EST

re: Paul2432

Paul2432 wrote:
Are you a man or a woman? Obviously you have less improvement needed if you are female.
What is your current height and weight? If you have excess weight you can get faster both by improving fitness and losing weight.
Can you tolerate high volume training, say 75 MPW? ( built up over time)
I think most people can BQ if they lose weight and progressively increase training over a couple years.

I'm a man 5'9 - 145, 37 years old, thinking best shot at Boston would be to age in after I turn 40.

Cannot tolerate 75 mpw - highest have gone is low mid 40's mpw and haven't sustained it - injured running 180 miles in April 2016 on Hanson's plan/ ran too fast - thinking if I stop taking off time - get to 30 mpw + as base, try to get my 5 k under 20 min again, and 10 k under 40 - and not run a marathon this spring. I think I could do that 5 k < 20 and 10 k < 40 with the same amount of effort I put into finishing the first few marathons but different program obviously. Then next step try to increase marathon mileage to more intermediate plan to allow 40 mpw with goal of < 3:40 as next step. With maybe 2, 3, 4, more cycles needed to see if I'd have a shot to get a BQ.

5 years ago 01/13/2019 10:44pm EST

re: some day I'll be faster

Of course. Qualifying is no longer necessary. Charity 5-hour marathoners have priority over 3-hour marathoners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4Dc-J_mD7c

5 years ago 01/14/2019 2:57pm EST

re: some day I'll be faster

So must go sub 3:10 in a few years.

Not impossible, but definitely improbable.

5 years ago 01/16/2019 1:10pm EST

re: some day I'll be faster

I'd say...no. If I'm being honest. Not that it's impossible because you're a 5 hour marathoner but because you've had a tendency to not continue training over the length of time it will take to qualify.

You've said already that 75 mpw is not doable. That's okay. It's not required. But I don't think with your numbers you're going to qualify. Your best marathon was 3:52 after two years of training and multiple 20 mile long runs. You need to shave at least 42 minutes off of that time to qualify in the next few years.

Again, it's doable, but I'm just not sure you're going to do it.

5 years ago 01/16/2019 1:21pm EST

re: some day I'll be faster

"RE: Can a 5 hour marathoner qualify for Boston"

sure, didn't that dude from Philly do it?

(oh, you meant without cheeeeating. In that case, no)

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