The man went 2:18 for 1k then literally less than an hour later ran a 3:52 mile. He looked so smooth too. So, the question is, is he gonna drop something like a sub 3:50 mile and have a sub 12:50 5k from last season off of talent and hard work or is he all over that EPO?
He's been deadly for a small handful of years now. Even better at the 3k.
ClonedDuck wrote:
He's been deadly for a small handful of years now. Even better at the 3k.
Well, yeah, like we all know his crazy 7:28 last year and a couple years back his indoor 3k title, but running a 2:18 1k and then a mile in 3:52 indoors within an hour is a bit more impressive in my opinion, especially in early January and his rust buster meet.
He is absolutely full natty brah.
Bob Washington wrote:
ClonedDuck wrote:
He's been deadly for a small handful of years now. Even better at the 3k.
Well, yeah, like we all know his crazy 7:28 last year and a couple years back his indoor 3k title, but running a 2:18 1k and then a mile in 3:52 indoors within an hour is a bit more impressive in my opinion, especially in early January and his rust buster meet.
He had more than just that 7:28 last year. He had a 3:32 and 12:46 and 59:17 half marathon with that 7:28 in a 30 day period. That's about as impressive as it gets. His workouts in St Moritz were truly incredible.
crazy range...
yyy wrote:
crazy range...
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
Tergat didn't run his Pbs in the same season or within 12 months...
not that crazy................... wrote:
yyy wrote:
crazy range...
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
Uh-huh. Right. What's tergat's 1500m pr? Did he ever beat the Olympic bronze 800m guy over 1000m?
Apples to carrots wrote:
not that crazy................... wrote:
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
Uh-huh. Right. What's tergat's 1500m pr? Did he ever beat the Olympic bronze 800m guy over 1000m?
I don't think he ever did indoor races or 1000m/1500m races outside of Kenya. But I'm sure if he wanted to, he could've went sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 mile. Especially if he was on Alberto Salazar push up program.
First of all Kejelcha is my favorite runner right now, but the chances that he has been 100% clean for 100% of his life are extremely remote.
Bob Washington wrote:
So, the question is, is he gonna drop something like a sub 3:50 mile and have a sub 12:50 5k from last season off of talent and hard work or is he all over that EPO?
It very well may be both; talent combined with hardwork and pharmacology. As a spectator I'm fine with that. If I were talented enough to be on the fringe or better of running professionally then I would be seriously upset about the pharmacology part, but as it is I'm not. That's clearly how the game is played and I consider myself lucky to not be THAT good of a runner. What a curse that game would be.
Definitely better off that I'm best at living in my mom's basement rather than running.
Apples to carrots wrote:
not that crazy................... wrote:
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
Uh-huh. Right. What's tergat's 1500m pr? Did he ever beat the Olympic bronze 800m guy over 1000m?
+1
not that crazy................... wrote:
yyy wrote:
crazy range...
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
Lol..."not that crazy, but I'll compare in to Tergat!"
Apples to carrots wrote:
not that crazy................... wrote:
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
Uh-huh. Right. What's tergat's 1500m pr? Did he ever beat the Olympic bronze 800m guy over 1000m?
Exactly, then he followed that up with a 3:52 mile less than an hour later. I know his PRs from last year and that he has beastly range, but the 1k and mile within an hour of each other in early January is a little suspicious. I like yomif and he is fun to watch, but I’d like a clean sport more than insane times if the guys aren’t running those off of talent and hard work.
I wouldn't necessarily say a 2:18 with a 3:52 about an hour later is better than a 7:28 3k. At that level you recover very quickly after a big race, his breathing was probably fine 2-3 minutes after the 1k. And it wasn't a long enough race to completely trash his muscles and energy. That 7:28 3k was like a 4:03 1600 and then on pace for a 3:57 mile with zero minute rest.
Bob Washington wrote:
I like yomif and he is fun to watch, but I’d like a clean sport more than insane times if the guys aren’t running those off of talent and hard work.
Oversized track w/ pacing and competition. Times weren’t that fast and this is indoors in two soft, side events. Pro one-day doubles (non-championship) are overrated because of their rarity. The easiness of his efforts is exaggerated by us hobbyjoggers. Kejelcha’s 1500 and 5k PRs already suggested the ability to do this.
not that crazy................... wrote:
yyy wrote:
crazy range...
Not that crazy.
Paul Tergat PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.70
5000 Metres 12:49.87
10 Kilometres 28:04
Half Marathon 59:17
Yomif Kejelcha PRs:
3000 Metres 7:28.00
5000 Metres 12:46.79
10 Kilometres 28:13
Half Marathon 59:17
If you can run sub 7:30 for 3000m, than a sub 2:20 1000m/3:50 ish mile is easily within your range.
I believe Tergat ran a little faster than 28:04.
I assume the 28:04 is a 10km [road], not a10,000 meters [track].
schiklgruber wrote:
I assume the 28:04 is a 10km [road], not a10,000 meters [track].
Well, the 3 and 5 PRs listed were on the track and obviously his 10K road PR was not run all out.
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