Pointing It Out (Again) wrote:
celery wrote:
To -Pointing It Out (Again)-
The basic thrust of the article is that various methods of measuring ocean temperature have to be estimated and modified to pretend we have a complete picture of what's going on.
It's cute that you think we have accurate data on how much ice has melted or accumulated from Greenland and Antarctica. You really think they have an accurate survey of all the ice there? Some ice can be melting from the side while weather patterns put more ice in the center of these land masses. Or perhaps weather patterns will cause more snow/ice to accumulate in the high mountain ranges on the various continents. We would have to be keeping constant surveys of all the glaciers and snow packs on earth to even begin to get a comprehensive picture of what has happened, let alone what will happen in the future.
Once the ice melts, will this water be warm and cause sea levels to rise a lot? Or will it be dense and not contribute much to sea level rise? Will it accumulate around land masses, or will ocean currents make most of it settle in the center of the ocean and not contribute much to sea level rise?
These are just a few uncertainties regarding ocean water and ice melting. There are many more factors that would go into looking at the entire climate. These things are all variables and we just don't know them. The whole endeavor is shrouded in 10 layers of uncertainty.
It's cute that you think scientist accurately know all these things. It's cute that you think there is even a way to collect all this date over a long enough time to make accurate predictive models. It's cute that you think a predictive model of the climate is even possible. But go ahead and keep calling me stupid if that make you feel better.
The are many of us who don't care about climate change because we know it is uncertain and unchangeable even if we did know. You will not change our minds. You can't convince us you are certain of something when we are smart enough to see all the uncertainties. We aren't like you. We don't think our goddess mother earth will be angry with us and punish us if we don't make sacrifices to her. We just don't care. I've tried to explain the reasons why we don't care. Keep calling me stupid, it won't change a thing.
I've got a little secret for you. You don't care either. Why are you burning fossil fuels right now wasting energy on your computer? It's because you don't care either.
Wow, that's got to be the most complete capitulation I have ever seen on LRC! Congratulations are in order!
So, someone using a computer means they don't care? I suppose that means that someone who eats does not care since much, if not all, of what we eat has been produced, harvested, transported . . . with the benefit of fossil fuels. So, therefore nobody cares. Brilliant!
Have you been working to develop that level of stupidity your entire life? Or does it just come naturally?
- Seriously dude, every time you post you come across as more stupid than the time before.
Yeah, I knew that last line would rile you up. I used it on a brain washed environmentalist a couple years ago and they got just as triggered as you. They never argued any of my points, just hurled insults. Sound familiar?
And you are right, if you eat food, you are part of the problem. You live off fossil fuels, and there is nothing you can do about it. By your very existence you are harming your goddess mother earth. And your goddess demands a sacrifice. But you're not willing to sacrifice anything from yourself. You just want to force others to jump into the volcano for you. And you get really angry when anyone questions the high priests (climate scientists) authority. But like I told you before, I don't worship your goddess, I'm not going to sacrifice anything for her, and I see right through all the lies of your high priests. I've pointed out the lies for you to see (all the guess work and estimations that go into the data gathering), but you are blind. Keep yelling at me blind one.