Similar academics as Brown but not DI

I’m speculating, but your studies were not STEM or business, correct?

Brown Bear 81 wrote:

Im a alumni of Brown. None of these schools is as good as Brown. At Brown people need very good acedemics. At those other places some have good acedemics, some not so good acedemics and some bad acedemics. Remember this !

That word you keep using, I'm not sure it's spelled the way you think it's spelled.

W&L

Where is your compassion? It is not he fault of the individual that they are not as smart as you . Where are they supposed to go to college? I wish more people had compassion for the less fortunate. The Ivies are disgusting in they discriminate against the less smart when it is not their fault that they were born that way. Why wouldn't they be fair to everyone and open up their admissions to all? Smarter kids will do well regardless of where they go to college but the Ivies could reach out to help the rest of the population.

The average ACT at Rutgers is 28 while the average ACT is only 25 so how are they overreaching when they don't even allow average students to attend? If state subsidized institutions don't allow in-state kids to attend, who will?

The only D3 schools on Brown’s academic level, or even in the ballpark, per most rankings would be:

MIT (harder academically)

U of Chicago

WashU

Carnegie Mellon

Emory

Caltech (harder for engineering and computer science)

Johns Hopkins (also harder)

That’s not to say you can’t be as successful at a small liberal arts college or state school if you’re motivated...but I’m just trying to honestly answer the question.

Yale grad wrote:

Respectfully disagree, on your list only MIT has academics comparable to Brown. Not trashing the other schools, but just saying.

MIT does not have academics comparable to Brown. MIT is academically superior to Brown.

Read the Study wrote:

https://blog.prepscholar.com/harvard-asian-admissions-lawsuit-application-strategy

No, we are the opposite of the profile that you created, My wife and I are first-generation college graduates who worked our way through and paid our own loans. We worked hard and are middle class. We have 2 sons who scored 35 on the ACT and near perfect scores on the SAT. They were great in band, they volunteered, they took many AP classes, and ran 4:15 in the 1600 junior year. They are white. They were both rejected by the ivies while they saw 2 black teammates score 29 and 30 on the ACT who were admitted.

Sigh. Yup I guess that everything you need to know about those teammates (who I am sure really exist) is told by their standardized test scores. Hopefully at least your kids understand that admissions to highly selective schools is not just about test scores and GPAs - though so many people would love it to be. People who pay any attention to the news know that Ivies (and others) routinely turn away hundreds of kids with at least one perfect score on standardized tests and 4.0 GPAs. By the way, you know about the black teammates, but do you know how many kids who were the equivalent of Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, George W. Bush, (i.e. rich and well-connected) etc. got in the year your kids applied? You might want to direct your anger their way since last I checked, black students made up fewer than 10% of the population at most ivies. Chances are greater your kids' spots (not that anyone is guaranteed a spot) were taken by a famous child actor, the kid of some hedge fund owner, a business tycoon's child, a NE boarding school rower, a congressman's son or someone whose great grandfather's name appears on a building on campus - or you could tell yourself it was one of the 10 black kids if that makes you feel better. Hope your kids don't let their non-acceptance make them into bitter, jaded people!

Of course they admit the ultra wealthy but they don't do it based on race so that group is not taking spots from the regular pile. That is perfectly acceptable. If Jay Z or Lebron or Oprah or Condy Rice want to send their kids to the ivies, they are in just like Trump or Bush. The complaint pertains to the unknown black kids with the 30 ACTs being admitted while the unlnown Asian kids with 36 ACTs get rejected. Race should not be considered. That is wrong and illegal.

Grinnell College

Lol I hope you’re trolling. No one has heard of that school.

Don’t worry, the Asians will still be more successful in the long run. In the end they’ll actually have saved money by not going to Harvard, Stanford, etc. I saw many in Med school that went to state school (some by choice) and we’re just as successful as their Harvard grad counterparts

Answering the question wrote:

The only D3 schools on Brown’s academic level, or even in the ballpark, per most rankings would be:

MIT (harder academically)

U of Chicago

WashU

Carnegie Mellon

Emory

Caltech (harder for engineering and computer science)

Johns Hopkins (also harder)

That’s not to say you can’t be as successful at a small liberal arts college or state school if you’re motivated...but I’m just trying to honestly answer the question.

This is a good list. One oft-overlooked regional university that is likely on par is Colorado School of Mines, at least as far as STEM is concerned. Also, Rice University could make this list too. Haven’t seen them mentioned yet.

Rice is another good one. Didn’t think about them because they’re D1 but academically they are right up there. I have to plead ignorance about Colorado school of mines

One could also argue that CMU and WashU are tougher than Brown for certain majors (eg CS and EE for CMU and Biology at WashU). Nevertheless overall these are all comparable schools.

Columbia undergrad wrote:

Lol I hope you’re trolling. No one has heard of that school.

Ask your mom, she knows. That's where she had me meet her to gape her.

Columbia undergrad wrote:

Lol I hope you’re trolling. No one has heard of that school.

Brown is the academia of the Ivies . Colombia isn’t .

East Stroudsburg

Northern Arizona

Miami

George Mason

Columbia undergrad wrote:

Lol I hope you’re trolling. No one has heard of that school.

Columbia athletics are a joke, pal. Bottom 10% of a bottom 10% D1 conference.

Brown Bear 81 wrote:

Im a alumni of Brown. None of these schools is as good as Brown. At Brown people need very good acedemics . At those other places some have good acedemics, some not so good acedemics and some bad acedemics. Remember this !

I'm assuming this is a troll--and, if so, well played.

*I'm

*an

*alumnus [or] alumna

*academics

*this! [no space between the last letter and the exclamation point]

That said, people have been listing the (current and former) member schools of the UAA, a D3 conference, fairly often. Those schools are/were Brandeis, Carnegie Mellon, Case Western, Chicago, Emory, Johns Hopkins, New York University, and Washington University in St. Louis.