Only 4 USA Men Have Qualified For Trials via Half Marathon (1:04)

kl wrote:

Walmsley is going for something epic. Only four dudes with all these sub-29:00 college guys have qualified so far. Impressive,

http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/2020/U-S--Olympic-Team-Trials---Marathon/QualifyingStandards/Eligible-List/Men-Half-Marathon.aspx

This is not true. If the person qualified for the trials in the marathon, their name is removed from the half marathon list and added to the marathon list.

For example... Brogan Austin ran 1:02:38 this fall in Indianapolis, but he is not included on that list because he ran 2:12:38 at CIM.

According to the link below, 7 American men have run under 1:04:00 since the qualifying window opened on September 1, 2018:

Good attempt at finding an angle to make a sub 1:04 "epic". You've got the rest of the weekend to come up with another angle. I expect something great on Monday.

Good. 1:05 was too soft. Guys would get that standard with low mileage and not be in anywhere near competitive shape for the full marathon. I think it's better that guys are basically forced to run a full marathon to get the standard.

isn't qualifying via the half considered a "b standard" ?

not to deminish the accomplishment but why is qualifying for a full via a half even allowed?

you can do a half without bottle management, fuel or risking glycogen bonk, but an OTQ full typically requires a more experienced athlete?

Galen Rupp, and others can tempo 2:19 marathon.

but why wrote:

isn't qualifying via the half considered a "b standard" ?

not to deminish the accomplishment but why is qualifying for a full via a half even allowed?

you can do a half without bottle management, fuel or risking glycogen bonk, but an OTQ full typically requires a more experienced athlete?

Who's coaching Reed Fischer?

but why wrote:

not to deminish the accomplishment but why is qualifying for a full via a half even allowed?

some people have done pretty well in their marathon debut. so if someone wants the trials to be their debut then they can qualify with a half which is a lot less of a physical investment than a full.

also marathons can be a bit hit-or-miss and you can't just crank out attempts to get the time you "deserve" like you can for other races. if you are fit enough to run the HM time then that means you at least have a shot at a good marathon if you have a good day at the trials.

so the HM qualifier ensures that everyone with a remote shot at making the team gets to line up. and having a few extra people lined up isn't really a negative

still seems weird and these are ultimately pretty weak reasons. if someone has a shot at making the team at the trials then it shouldn't be too much to ask them to run a 2:18 before it

Jim is good for 59:xx on Strava, 1:06xx in an actual race.

but why wrote:

isn't qualifying via the half considered a "b standard" ?

not to deminish the accomplishment but why is qualifying for a full via a half even allowed?

you can do a half without bottle management, fuel or risking glycogen bonk, but an OTQ full typically requires a more experienced athlete?

Bottle management...How dramatic.

Over a hundred are going to toe the line at the trials.

101 isn't going to matter. Or 102, or 103...

Let them in, especially if it's in the single digits.

Hopefully their hometown newspaper writes a story that inspires a kid to get off his ass.

There is a reason they don't run marathon heats at the Olympics or Worlds.

5 months of training just to run a qualifier to get 5 more months of training just to run the trials to get 5 more months of training to toe the line at the big race means your day job had better pay pretty good IF you had 2 years of no health problems.

99% of those who qualify has zero chance of making the team. The standard is just there to fill the empty seats on the road. It would look weird if only a dozen guys ran the race.

subelite hobbyjogger wrote:

, 1:06xx in an actual race.

He's not going to run a course with 3,000 ft elevation gain.

asdasd wrote:

Who's coaching Reed Fischer?

He's not going to run a course with 3,000 ft elevation gain.

Well, he might. As unbelievably talented as the fellow is, he’s not at the good end of the runner intelligence bell curve.