BREAKING: GoFundMe for Border Wall: $1 Million and Counting

I bet you anything that if Trump got Mexico to stroke a check that the dems would authorize matching funds. Trump should swing on down to Mexico and use those expert negotiating skills. He would look like a hero to all these super smart folks donating their money.

CON job wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

To build you need to own the land. It's either owned by the government or privately.

The government can confiscate private land —except for Native American lands. Private builders would have to pay through the nose for private land.

This is what I’m getting at. Large portions of the border in TX are privately owned. What is stopping these owners from building a barrier on their land using the GoFund me route?

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

CON job wrote:

The government can confiscate private land —except for Native American lands. Private builders would have to pay through the nose for private land.

This is what I’m getting at. Large portions of the border in TX are privately owned. What is stopping these owners from building a barrier on their land using the GoFund me route?

Alan

I don't follow your logic. If the government takes the land by eminent domain, the owner is still entitled to receive "fair market value", but if the GoFund me money is used the owner turns it over for free? Most people want to be compensated for selling or renting their land.

Guys, the federal government CAN claim eminent domain on the privately owned land for the wall...however, the property owner also has the right to contest it in court.

If every private land owner fights it (and there will be no shortage of legal advocacy groups lining up to do this for free), it will tie it up in courts for probably years, given the appeals processes that will take place. Think about how many different cases it would be, how many different court systems, judges, etc.

Trump will (probably) be long out of office before all of this would be resolved.

These people giving their money to this campaign are just damn idiots.

Just a general question about GoFundMe.

Is there a way to see donations per day or per week? I would be interested both in terms of $ per day and number of donations per day. So far the campaign is trotting along at about $3M per day and 50K donors per day average. I am curious as to how long that rate will continue and how steep the drop off will be once the passionate donors have been exhausted.

Raddison wrote:

Just a general question about GoFundMe.

Is there a way to see donations per day or per week? I would be interested both in terms of $ per day and number of donations per day. So far the campaign is trotting along at about $3M per day and 50K donors per day average. I am curious as to how long that rate will continue and how steep the drop off will be once the passionate donors have been exhausted.

Eventually it will level off and never become a significant number in relation the cost of the wall. Probably somewhere around $50 million which would be 1/500th of the projected cost of $25B.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Guys, the federal government CAN claim eminent domain on the privately owned land for the wall...however, the property owner also has the right to contest it in court.

If every private land owner fights it (and there will be no shortage of legal advocacy groups lining up to do this for free), it will tie it up in courts for probably years, given the appeals processes that will take place. Think about how many different cases it would be, how many different court systems, judges, etc.

Trump will (probably) be long out of office before all of this would be resolved.

These people giving their money to this campaign are just damn idiots.

The government has the absolute power to take land by eminent domain. The issue that could be litigated is the amount of compensation to be given to the landowners.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Raddison wrote:

Just a general question about GoFundMe.

Is there a way to see donations per day or per week? I would be interested both in terms of $ per day and number of donations per day. So far the campaign is trotting along at about $3M per day and 50K donors per day average. I am curious as to how long that rate will continue and how steep the drop off will be once the passionate donors have been exhausted.

Eventually it will level off and never become a significant number in relation the cost of the wall. Probably somewhere around $50 million which would be 1/500th of the projected cost of $25B.

I'm not sure it will get that high. My totally unscientific estimate is that 50% of the total donations are now in. So $30M is my guess.

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/21/washington-post-reporter-fails-to-end-vets-wall-funding-campaign/

Washington Post (democrat newspaper) fails to shut down border wall gofundme.

Democrats fail at everything.

I can't believe we're on the eleventh page and nobody has pointed out that Trump campaigned on a promise that he would make Mexico pay for the wall!

That’s hilarious wrote:

Democrats lose again wrote:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/21/washington-post-reporter-fails-to-end-vets-wall-funding-campaign/

Washington Post (democrat newspaper) fails to shut down border wall gofundme.

Democrats fail at everything.

So a tech reporter represents both the Post and all democrats? I'm a democrat and if these guys want to pay for the wall directly that's fine with me. If the burden is evenly shared, Trump's 63 million voters will have to cough up $400 each.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

If the burden is evenly shared, Trump's 63 million voters will have to cough up $400 each.

Um, Trump's only asking for $5 billion, not $25 billion. Keep drinking the CNN Kool-aid. Either that or you really suck at mathematics.

Simple solution is to compromise in the middle at $3.3 billion and reopen the government.

Howuxh of trump's own money has he donated?

There is a reason the rich are rich: they aren't morons.

Certainly Not Skuj wrote:

breit leit wrote:

I love it. Can you imagine being one of the 200k + people so dumb to be duped into contributing to this?

Can you imagine Trump becoming POTUS?

Yes.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

This is what I’m getting at. Large portions of the border in TX are privately owned. What is stopping these owners from building a barrier on their land using the GoFund me route?

Alan

I don't follow your logic. If the government takes the land by eminent domain, the owner is still entitled to receive "fair market value", but if the GoFund me money is used the owner turns it over for free? Most people want to be compensated for selling or renting their land.

Why are you assuming that the owners wouldn’t be compensated using the GoFund Me route?

I find it strange that republican voters would tax themselves on behalf of the government. Doesn't sound very fiscally conservative to me.

independent voter wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

If the burden is evenly shared, Trump's 63 million voters will have to cough up $400 each.

Um, Trump's only asking for $5 billion, not $25 billion. Keep drinking the CNN Kool-aid. Either that or you really suck at mathematics.

Simple solution is to compromise in the middle at $3.3 billion and reopen the government.

No, the $5 billion is merely to begin the project. The entire project is estimated to be at least $25 billion. This is only the first round for the GoFundMe morans.

The $15 million raised is enough for about 3 miles of wall.

Which can be defeated in 30 minutes by any hobby jogger,

or anybody with a $10 ladder.

Meanwhile, we need more ladders.

https://www.gofundme.com/ladders-to-get-over-trump039s-wall