Brand new $15 million UNC track is defective

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They use asphalt as the base when making running tracks not concrete.

Also, quoting an unnamed source while you are an unnamed source makes you seem like an idiot.

I did not know it was in a flood plain.

Lived in Chapel Hill for about 8 years and used to do speed work on that track. Great location in the center of campus with the indoor track right next door. During the indoor season it was the perfect opportunity to do your warmup since there was no room to do so indoors. I had no idea that they tore it up to build a new one. Where exactly is the new track? Near where they used to hold the hammer throw and the start/finish of the CC course by the Ronald McDonald House? If so it sits in a bowl and certainly would get flooded often.

I haven't seen Duke's new facility either. Ran on the track in Wallace Wade back in the day.

if it ain't broke, don't "fix" it wrote:

Lived in Chapel Hill for about 8 years and used to do speed work on that track. Great location in the center of campus with the indoor track right next door. During the indoor season it was the perfect opportunity to do your warmup since there was no room to do so indoors. I had no idea that they tore it up to build a new one. Where exactly is the new track? Near where they used to hold the hammer throw and the start/finish of the CC course by the Ronald McDonald House? If so it sits in a bowl and certainly would get flooded often.

I haven't seen Duke's new facility either. Ran on the track in Wallace Wade back in the day.

Yeah, the new track is down by the golf course near the Ronald McDonald House. According to this, they raised it up 6 feet thinking that would protect it from flooding, which it obviously didn't.

Duke's new facility is fantastic. They let the public run on it as well, as long as the team isn't using it.

The real problem is rising sea levels and extreme weather events, and the global conflicts that will ensue as a result of climate change within our lifetime.

Can’t wait to tell my grandchildren about the lost civilization of Florida.

The University has responded to this news by claiming that it is blameless, since the track is open to all students, not just track athletes.

answer: spend more tax payer money on education.

Who caresss wrote:

The real problem is rising sea levels and extreme weather events, and the global conflicts that will ensue as a result of climate change within our lifetime.

Can’t wait to tell my grandchildren about the lost civilization of Florida.

Yup, the world has always been the same until now. There was no ice age. The Grand Canyon was always like it is now. Completely static.

Thank you! The World is only like 3000 years old too, am I right!? AM I RITE!?!?

John Utah wrote:

Who caresss wrote:

The real problem is rising sea levels and extreme weather events, and the global conflicts that will ensue as a result of climate change within our lifetime.

Can’t wait to tell my grandchildren about the lost civilization of Florida.

Yup, the world has always been the same until now. There was no ice age. The Grand Canyon was always like it is now. Completely static.

You do realize that the two changes you cited took place over thousands and millions of years, right? (hence the term "glacial pace" means "slow pace") The whole point of the man-made climate argument is that climate can naturally change over long periods of time, but just not as rapidly as it is changing now. That has to come from man-made sources. Thus by citing natural changes that take a long time, you aren't really accomplishing your goal. In fact, you are sort of providing support to your intellectual opponents.

Aristotle II wrote:

John Utah wrote:

Yup, the world has always been the same until now. There was no ice age. The Grand Canyon was always like it is now. Completely static.

You do realize that the two changes you cited took place over thousands and millions of years, right? (hence the term "glacial pace" means "slow pace") The whole point of the man-made climate argument is that climate can naturally change over long periods of time, but just not as rapidly as it is changing now. That has to come from man-made sources. Thus by citing natural changes that take a long time, you aren't really accomplishing your goal. In fact, you are sort of providing support to your intellectual opponents.

Educate yourself. Many changes have happened over shorter periods. Scientists have no idea as to what is man made and what is not. It's all assumptions on top of speculation on top of hypothesis. Don't be such a gullible fool.

The UNC Way wrote:

The University has responded to this news by claiming that it is blameless, since the track is open to all students, not just track athletes.

If the track is open to all students, then it should be in the center of campus. Do you know how many hobby-walkers walk on my local college track? In other words, it gets lots of use...........and should be in a central location. It is a fitness facility, not just a track.

The UNC Way wrote:

The University has responded to this news by claiming that it is blameless, since the track is open to all students, not just track athletes.

Nothing UNC says in response to unflattering news surprises me. However, what does the track's openness, or lack thereof, to non-athletes have to do with flood damage?

Who/what is UNC blaming?

John Utah wrote:

Aristotle II wrote:

You do realize that the two changes you cited took place over thousands and millions of years, right? (hence the term "glacial pace" means "slow pace") The whole point of the man-made climate argument is that climate can naturally change over long periods of time, but just not as rapidly as it is changing now. That has to come from man-made sources. Thus by citing natural changes that take a long time, you aren't really accomplishing your goal. In fact, you are sort of providing support to your intellectual opponents.

Educate yourself. Many changes have happened over shorter periods. Scientists have no idea as to what is man made and what is not. It's all assumptions on top of speculation on top of hypothesis. Don't be such a gullible fool.

John Utah, what are you arguing? Nothing in the original poster's comment is incorrect. He indicated that sea levels are rising and that this, along with extreme weather, will cause issues. Sea level rise is not a matter of debate. It appears you thought that the OP was making a reference to man-made changes, but he never states that.

98% of scientists agree that humans are changing the climate. Their research is published and reviewed. The other 2% were paid not to agree by companies that have internal memos acknowledging human caused climate change. Climate change deniers are a very small minority, but they are certain if they say it often and loud enough that will make them right. But everyone is allowed to have an opinion, no matter how ill informed.

Too bad about the track.

Te 2 wrote:

I did not know it was in a flood plain.

most of eastern north carolina is a floodplain, bro

100% of German Scientists agreed Albert Einstein's theories were wrong. Science has nothing whatever to do with agreement, except agreement with experimentation. The failed track in NC has nothing at all to do with sea level rise or the rise in temperatures since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Failed engineers and scientists had everything to do with the failure.

1) I added in the cost of the complex to the title of the thread - $15 million.

2) So is going to pay for the redo?