This is from one year ago, when the changes were announced (CNN), and then from 6 months ago (NYT) when the changes went effective (11 June).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/technology/net-neutrality-repeal.html
This is from one year ago, when the changes were announced (CNN), and then from 6 months ago (NYT) when the changes went effective (11 June).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/technology/net-neutrality-repeal.html
So far
So good. . . .
So what?
Lydiard Cerutty wrote:
So far
So good. . . .
So what?
Coincidentally, it was exactly 10 years ago that Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore informed us that the North Pole would be Completely Ice-Free by within 5 years in 2013 (YouTube has memory-holed it, of course, though his similar event commentary in 2009 (more speaking fees!) is available)
easier to predict the past wrote:
Lydiard Cerutty wrote:
So far
So good. . . .
So what?
Coincidentally, it was exactly 10 years ago that Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore informed us that the North Pole would be Completely Ice-Free by within 5 years in 2013 (YouTube has memory-holed it, of course, though his similar event commentary in 2009 (more speaking fees!) is available)
Correct, that is a coincidence. In fact, it isn't even remotely related.
The fact that Al Gore is an idiot doesn't change the fact that:
1) climate change is real, man made, and will negatively impact our lives progressively over the next decades.
2) removing net neutrality has the potential to limit access to information in a way the majority of Americans believe would be unfair.
Drainthefecesswamp wrote:
easier to predict the past wrote:
Coincidentally, it was exactly 10 years ago that Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore informed us that the North Pole would be Completely Ice-Free by within 5 years in 2013 (YouTube has memory-holed it, of course, though his similar event commentary in 2009 (more speaking fees!) is available)
Correct, that is a coincidence. In fact, it isn't even remotely related.
The fact that Al Gore is an idiot doesn't change the fact that:
1) climate change is real, man made, and will negatively impact our lives progressively over the next decades.
2) removing net neutrality has the potential to limit access to information in a way the majority of Americans believe would be unfair.
1) climate change is a hoax by the government to control us.
2) so what?
Is Net Neutrality some sort of compromise between Net Positivity and Net Negativity?
I've been trying to post in this thread for like 3 days, but my Interent connection keeps getting cut-of
300 baud wrote:
I've been trying to post in this thread for like 3 days, but my Interent connection keeps getting cut-of
Top kek
It turns out the internet is actually faster!
Despite assurances from Democratic politicians and progressive advocacy groups like Planned Parenthood and GLAAD that the internet, as we knew it, would be transformed forever without the "protections" of net neutrality, the reality is there that no negative consequences have surfaced as a result of the FCC's controversial decision.
In fact, the results have only been positive.
According to PCMag, internet download speed has increased a whopping 35.8 percent over the last year. The news outlet attributed the faster internet speeds to "the expansion of Gigabit internet connections."
https://www.wired.com/story/year-without-net-neutrality-no-big-changes-yet/https://in.pcmag.com/news/127493/us-fixed-broadband-speeding-up-especially-for-downloads05:20 hrs
12.16.2018
Day 183: bandwidth is getting scarcer and scarcer. Last night a group of cyberpunk Raiders stole our ethernet cables and bitcoin. It's cold, so cold because we are no longer getting heat from our mining rig. If you come across this it is likely too late Comcast has been cracking down on unauthorized communications and I think we are next.
Commissioner Pai is an idiot. He's getting bad advice from his lower level staff. Commissioner Sandoval was a bit over the top with some of her rulings but at least she had a clue with this and lifeline.
It turns out the internet is actually faster!
[quote]Despite assurances from Democratic politicians and progressive advocacy groups like Planned Parenthood and GLAAD that the internet, as we knew it, would be transformed forever without the "protections" of net neutrality, the reality is there that no negative consequences have surfaced as a result of the FCC's controversial decision. In fact, the results have only been positive.
Fake news! Lies and Falsehoods!!!
Posters from the fast VIP network only, pls wrote:
May I ask why you think this repeal is beneficial to consumers? We are fortunate that things have not changed much. The cable companies were still making profits during the days of net neutrality. Why do you want them to make more money at the expense of their customers who in most cases have limited capability of getting a new ISP? [1] [2]
Another thing to realize is that many customers have two contracts which may not have been terminated yet. It possible cable companies could be waiting for these to end before they start pushing their new products. Of course, this is purely speculation.
[1]
https://theconversation.com/americas-broadband-market-needs-more-competition-71676Our results show that nearly two-thirds of Angelenos live in areas served by just one internet provider that offers speeds meeting the Federal Communications Commission’s current definition of “broadband” service – 25 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload.
[2]
https://www.pcmag.com/news/357972/exclusive-data-shows-the-terrible-state-of-us-isp-competitioPCMag looked at test data from more than 20,000 ZIP codes across the country. We found that 70 percent of those locations have either zero or one option for 25Mbps internet service.
The repeal of Net Neutrality is an attack on LGTBQ ?! wrote:
According to PCMag, internet download speed has increased a whopping 35.8 percent over the last year. The news outlet attributed the faster internet speeds to "the expansion of Gigabit internet connections."
Very misleading. A large part of the increase in rate is they are now aloud to throttle pornography sites.
Anyone who thought this was about news was a moran. News sites/delivery is a tiny part of total network activity. It's about streaming companies getting to put a huge strain on a network, and forcing the ISP to spread the cost across all internet users.
Posters from the fast VIP network only, pls wrote:
This is from one year ago, when the changes were announced (CNN), and then from 6 months ago (NYT) when the changes went effective (11 June).
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/364959-cnn-headline-declares-end-of-the-internet-as-we-know-it-after-net-neutralityhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/technology/net-neutrality-repeal.html
It’ll be years before we see all the fallout. Part of the fallout will be imperceptible through the lost chances and the never-gonna-happen businesses and websites under the new structure that favors the large oligopolies by allowing the gatekeepers to control the highway. Without repeal, we’ll never know what we lost because that future innovation has been derailed permanently in favor of granting unlimited control to potentially bad actors.
It’s like eating McDonald’s every day. You can get away with it for years, but eventually you will have a date with a mortician or a cardiologist.
They sure have silenced the Guardian. Free, left wing, and always down.
As alluded in the posts above, the state of internet service in the US is so bad that people would not even know if their connection speeds were compromised. Not mentioned above is the fact that ISPs are savvy about this issue and have achieved the same result as throttling by having unlimited data for certain content providers and charging for excess data use for others. I can stream Netflix all the time without putting a dent into my data use, but my bill goes up by $15-20 a month when my kids watch a lot of shows on Amazon Prime.
If the US ever catches up on broadband quality and access, you will definitely see ISPs resort to tactics like throttling as more and more people get into data heavy internet use like gaming and video chatting.
WWF warned us around 1990 that we will out of oil by 2004. Snowflakes and their fake news.
Posters from the fast VIP network only, pls wrote:
This is from one year ago, when the changes were announced (CNN), and then from 6 months ago (NYT) when the changes went effective (11 June).
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/364959-cnn-headline-declares-end-of-the-internet-as-we-know-it-after-net-neutralityhttps://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/technology/net-neutrality-repeal.html
I’ve seen changes already. It sucks. But no one said it was going to happen in 6 months. Plus states have implemented other rules.
If they made rape legal would you be surprised if you weren't raped in the first 6 months?
Changes are going to be subtle at first. There is still a fight going on in congress around net neutrality and the monopolies don't want to poke the bear too much at this point. Long term this will be a major loss for consumers and new companies that want to deliver content/services that require bandwidth. There just isn't any really competition in the broadband market, in the long run consumers will lose and innovation will be stifled. In extreme models some content might just be censored.
It is weird that those all up in arms about Baby, It's Cold Outside don't seem to connect the dots on net neutrality. Maybe they will get it when their ISP decides Info Wars content should be blocked because they are not getting a cut of the ad revenue or there is a more mainstream outlet with a bigger budget that can afford to pay for exclusivity.