Would Jakob, Gressier or Crippa have won NCAAs ?

Yes.

Personally, I think Jakob would smoke everyone in NCAAs. Kid has run 3:31 and was probably good for sub 13:05 this summer. Additionally, I think his 10k abilities are extremely good, although we haven't seen anything this far yet. With a threshold pace of ~2:45/km, he would comfortably hang with the lead group.

He doesn’t have a threshold pace of 2:45 per km.

Way slower

It will depend on the current batch and maybe also the courses and conditions. Note that there are a few NCAA athletes competing in the EUR (usually u23 category) but they come there after a hard ncaa xcountry season.

Weronika Pyzik was 3rd in the women's u23 and had been 12th in the NCAA. Last year she had been 5th in the NCAA and 8th in the EURO u23. There was lots of overlap in *2017* with NCAA females: Neale (2, 4 EURO u23), Taylor (3, 6 EURO senior race), , Brauer (15, 6 EURO u23), Camdara (34, 18 EUR u23).

So roughly the level at the top is comparable although the depth in the NCAA is much higher, especially if one restricts the EUR XC to the u23 (which corresponds college age).

Yes, he does. Both his yearly threshold test AND reports from his training indicate that he in fact has a threshold of ~2:45/km.

djddd wrote:

Yes, he does. Both his yearly threshold test AND reports from his training indicate that he in fact has a threshold of ~2:45/km.

If his threshold is 2:45, shouldn't be sub 13 5,000 and sub 27 10,000?

Gressier has a faster 3000 than Jakob. I think he would end up on top in the NCAAs.

Gressier is the Grant Fisher of France only better. Him and Fisher are the same age but Gressier is faster from 800m to 3000m.

Gressier>Fisher wrote:

Gressier has a faster 3000 than Jakob. I think he would end up on top in the NCAAs.

Gressier is the Grant Fisher of France only better. Him and Fisher are the same age but Gressier is faster from 800m to 3000m.

You think Gressier would beat Jakob?? NO WAY

Drew Peacock wrote:

djddd wrote:

Yes, he does. Both his yearly threshold test AND reports from his training indicate that he in fact has a threshold of ~2:45/km.

If his threshold is 2:45, shouldn't be sub 13 5,000 and sub 27 10,000?

That's right about where he is right now, at least over 5000.

Gressier>Fisher wrote:

Gressier has a faster 3000 than Jakob. I think he would end up on top in the NCAAs.

Gressier is the Grant Fisher of France only better. Him and Fisher are the same age but Gressier is faster from 800m to 3000m.

Once Fisher finishes his electrical engineering studies at Stanford and has greater time to dedicate to training and recovery; only then will we know how good he can be. Grassier and the Norwegian don’t have the same time commitments that Fisher has.

So basically the question is whether or not Jakob could beat Morgan McDonald over a cross country 10k? I think the answer is yes.

Jakob would destroy them. He beat Selemon Barega in a tactical 5k and has run 3:31.

lolkittenz wrote:

So basically the question is whether or not Jakob could beat Morgan McDonald over a cross country 10k? I think the answer is yes.

Looked like Morgan was jogging to me, one day they'll be equal, but not yet.