less than a week wrote:
Any updates? If she is released, she'd could be competing within a few days.
Quick update.. Appeal hearing being scheduled for next week.
less than a week wrote:
Any updates? If she is released, she'd could be competing within a few days.
Quick update.. Appeal hearing being scheduled for next week.
Track life wrote:
less than a week wrote:
Any updates? If she is released, she'd could be competing within a few days.
Quick update.. Appeal hearing being scheduled for next week.
Awesome! Best of luck.
Longhorn Nation can't wait to see her running in Austin sooner rather than later!
Just saw that young Miss Davis did a ‘moving out of Georgia’ video on YouTube with her boyfriend.
Two thoughts:
1) she clearly isn’t / wasn’t too traumatized by her association with the Univ of Georgia... she had no issue wearing all her Georgia gear, so I guess she was in no rush to shed the gear after announcing her departure
2) I wish her the best in her future (and believe Georgia was right to not support an exception).
Tara should wear Georgia stuff even at her next school, she should be eternally grateful to Georgia. They carried her to NCAA team championship. Tara scored 9 points while Georgia won by 12 - they didn't need her. Then Tara chokes at outdoor NCAAs (only scores 4 points) and they lose by a point.
Tara got a heck of a lot more out of Georgia than Georgia got out of her. That NCAA team title will be one of the best days of her life. She probably partied like crazy to celebrate and got blackout drunk (sorry dad, but that's what they do in college). Tara didn't leave an impact on Georgia, they didn't need her to win indoors and she blew it outdoors. But you can be sure that Tara is going to have that NCAA Championship ring displayed in the most prominent place in her house.
tara choked wrote:
Tara should wear Georgia stuff even at her next school, she should be eternally grateful to Georgia. They carried her to NCAA team championship. Tara scored 9 points while Georgia won by 12 - they didn't need her. Then Tara chokes at outdoor NCAAs (only scores 4 points) and they lose by a point.
Tara got a heck of a lot more out of Georgia than Georgia got out of her. That NCAA team title will be one of the best days of her life. She probably partied like crazy to celebrate and got blackout drunk (sorry dad, but that's what they do in college). Tara didn't leave an impact on Georgia, they didn't need her to win indoors and she blew it outdoors. But you can be sure that Tara is going to have that NCAA Championship ring displayed in the most prominent place in her house.
You are classless. Feel better now?
do research wrote:
New NCAA Rule for extenuating circumstances such as Ole Miss' crazy amount of NCAA violations and how they misled Patterson:
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/April2018DICouncil_Report_20180427.pdfModification of NCAA Division I Committee for Legislative Relief NCAA Division I
Four-Year College Transfers Directive. The Council approved a modification, effective
immediately, for student-athletes seeking eligibility for the 2018-19 academic year and
thereafter, to the Committee for Legislative Relief four-year college undergraduate transfer
directive to include an academic analysis and permit immediate eligibility to be provided,
in limited circumstances, for student-athletes who are not eligible to use the one-time transfer exception. Specifically, immediate eligibility may be provided to a transfer
student-athlete, provided: (Fairness/Well-Being/Operational)
a. The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the
student-athlete's control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the
student-athlete;
b. At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would have
been athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team had
he or she remained at the previous institution;
c. The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-ofdegree requirements; and
d. The previous institution's athletics administration does not oppose the transfer
Important to look at item "d" - If Georgia opposes it then there is no avenue through the NCAA in which Tara can get released. But there is no indication that Part A in this scenario actually applies to Tara either - wanting to be closer to home is not sufficient.
How about item A. With fellow student athletes shouting racists comments in public. Likely how their back up QB will transfer without sitting out either.
I think you are talking about her.
Track life wrote:
less than a week wrote:
Any updates? If she is released, she'd could be competing within a few days.
Quick update.. Appeal hearing being scheduled for next week.
I watched Tara in HS as a HS coach in CA and now as a coach in the NCAA. I was impressed in general by your responses to the ridiculousness that is part of LetsRun, which typically keeps me away from here as much as possible. I read this whole post only bc I saw you actually posted and that interested me as a coach myself to hear your comments. This is a new day and age and your daughter will not be the only athlete to take to social media about things like this so we need to understand these situations and try to help the student athletes in the long term.
My thoughts to you (and any reasonable person reading this thread)...
- LetsRun is mostly distance runners and they don't get sprinters and will always bash them out of misunderstanding, bias, and sometimes racism. The reality is that sprinters ARE divas in a certain sense. Nearly all of them are wired to be intense and what ignorant people mistakenly call "lazy" because they self-regulate so they have the ability to use extreme amounts of explosive energy when they need to. Their training, competitiveness and environment feeds this (Remea fiery little Tara stomping around when she was a freshman on the runway bc she not happy with her jump). These are traits what makes them great at what they do and it is important to acknowledge the connection between their wiring and their personality. (You'll hardly ever find nuance understanding on LR). But the important thing is to base morality not on personal character traits and personality, but on real character, integrity, and making good decisions with the right goals in mind. As a father, you owe nothing to anyone on here to explain the situation or defend your daughter and I hope you can help guide /encourage her to focus on the right things moving forward and be her best and the best teammate possible to her new team.
- To all those who are just talking about the contracts and NCAA rules...etc: The goal of any great college coach is not just winning championships and keeping his job, it is to develop young student athletes become their best selves, on the track and off. Sometimes that is showing tough love and following through with consequences of immature attitudes or poor decisions... and sometimes that is caring enough about your athletes as people above their athletic performance so that they feel supported far away from home.
- For those defending or attacking Petros: Petros is who he is and is not going to change bc he is achieving his goals. His preemptive tweet of Tara going to Texas was thought out and intentional. It was not surprising and fits with his consistent behavior. To say it was petty is true. Period. For those who don't know the whole situation all we can actually say is he is fully in his rights in denying her transfer so she doesn't compete against his team, if he wants, but the tweet was a blatantly passive aggressive parting shot, at best, and is rightly being called out.
- For any student athletes reading this or following the situation... two things:
1) You can determine a coach's character before you go to school there. Even if they are a good salesman you can ask the right questions and find out if you are willing to look past the hype and accolades. And you really should.
2) When you transfer things may change, and you may find a better environment, but it is more important that you change and re-evaluate your "why" , your values, and what you are doing to get yourself there. The person in the mirror is more important than any coach or environment.
3) As an athlete how you act affects everyone on your team and has ripple effect. Social media IS a huge distraction from everything you want out of life (unless all you want is social media fame). All the research, and all healthy adults with common sense, see the danger of it, the addicting nature of it, and are at least very cautious and set themselves boundaries with it. Don't get caught up in it and take an honest evaluation of how you want to use it for your goals and find accountability to keep you from getting swept up in the frenzy. Consider what you post, take breaks from it, re-examine your use periodically, set limits.
Anyway, those are my thoughts and hope everyone has a great new year!
Most of what you said is accurate except for bringing race into the discussion. I agree that most of the posters are distance runners. But saying that makes them racist is really a racist comment by you because it is based on your assumption that whites are distance runners and blacks are sprinters.
Sure, there is no racist stereotyping or comments on Letsrun...
Mostly accurate wrote:
Most of what you said is accurate except for bringing race into the discussion. I agree that most of the posters are distance runners. But saying that makes them racist is really a racist comment by you because it is based on your assumption that whites are distance runners and blacks are sprinters.
That word racist struck a nerve. Maybe accurate maybe not. We can't assume that a difference between sprints and distance is race? When's the last time a white dude won the 60m, 100m or 200m at nationals? Those that have, how many compared to nonwhites that have?
He threw that in to divert the discussion from the Diva.
........................................ wrote:
The new "rule" and portal removes the provision that schools can place restrictions on contacting other schools.
The one time transfer exception still applies.
The problem is that many people have the wrong perspective on this provision. The NCAA rule IN ALL SPORTS is that if you transfer you must sit out a year. Full stop. Then there is a one time transfer exception provision in many sports. It is called an EXCEPTION for a reason. It is not a given. No university BLOCKS anything, they merely don't grant an EXCEPTION to the established rule. Some might say that is semantics, I think it is significant.
The student-athlete has a right to appeal to a non-athletic review board at the university.
Perhaps in the future the NCAA will remove this EXCEPTION, but for now, it is the rule.
There should be no restrictions at all on athletes transferring. Coaches can leave at any time to take up other coaching positions, leaving their programs and athletes behind, probably most of whom went to that school because of that coach. Why is the movement of athletes restricted when it isn't for coaches?
You are free to assume whatever you want. Tara Davis is black and there are a lot of racists on Letsrun.
RayT wrote:
That word racist struck a nerve. Maybe accurate maybe not. We can't assume that a difference between sprints and distance is race? When's the last time a white dude won the 60m, 100m or 200m at nationals? Those that have, how many compared to nonwhites that have?
They can transfer. Go for it. It comes down to filling the scholarship at this late stage. She screwed Georgia for this year and next year because good high schoolers will have signed already. There are plenty of people who want to coach if a coach leaves.
Observant onlooker wrote:
Track life wrote:
Quick update.. Appeal hearing being scheduled for next week.
I watched Tara in HS as a HS coach in CA and now as a coach in the NCAA. I was impressed in general by your responses to the ridiculousness that is part of LetsRun, which typically keeps me away from here as much as possible. I read this whole post only bc I saw you actually posted and that interested me as a coach myself to hear your comments. This is a new day and age and your daughter will not be the only athlete to take to social media about things like this so we need to understand these situations and try to help the student athletes in the long term.
My thoughts to you (and any reasonable person reading this thread)...
- LetsRun is mostly distance runners and they don't get sprinters and will always bash them out of misunderstanding, bias, and sometimes racism. The reality is that sprinters ARE divas in a certain sense. Nearly all of them are wired to be intense and what ignorant people mistakenly call "lazy" because they self-regulate so they have the ability to use extreme amounts of explosive energy when they need to. Their training, competitiveness and environment feeds this (Remea fiery little Tara stomping around when she was a freshman on the runway bc she not happy with her jump). These are traits what makes them great at what they do and it is important to acknowledge the connection between their wiring and their personality. (You'll hardly ever find nuance understanding on LR). But the important thing is to base morality not on personal character traits and personality, but on real character, integrity, and making good decisions with the right goals in mind. As a father, you owe nothing to anyone on here to explain the situation or defend your daughter and I hope you can help guide /encourage her to focus on the right things moving forward and be her best and the best teammate possible to her new team.
- To all those who are just talking about the contracts and NCAA rules...etc: The goal of any great college coach is not just winning championships and keeping his job, it is to develop young student athletes become their best selves, on the track and off. Sometimes that is showing tough love and following through with consequences of immature attitudes or poor decisions... and sometimes that is caring enough about your athletes as people above their athletic performance so that they feel supported far away from home.
- For those defending or attacking Petros: Petros is who he is and is not going to change bc he is achieving his goals. His preemptive tweet of Tara going to Texas was thought out and intentional. It was not surprising and fits with his consistent behavior. To say it was petty is true. Period. For those who don't know the whole situation all we can actually say is he is fully in his rights in denying her transfer so she doesn't compete against his team, if he wants, but the tweet was a blatantly passive aggressive parting shot, at best, and is rightly being called out.
- For any student athletes reading this or following the situation... two things:
1) You can determine a coach's character before you go to school there. Even if they are a good salesman you can ask the right questions and find out if you are willing to look past the hype and accolades. And you really should.
2) When you transfer things may change, and you may find a better environment, but it is more important that you change and re-evaluate your "why" , your values, and what you are doing to get yourself there. The person in the mirror is more important than any coach or environment.
3) As an athlete how you act affects everyone on your team and has ripple effect. Social media IS a huge distraction from everything you want out of life (unless all you want is social media fame). All the research, and all healthy adults with common sense, see the danger of it, the addicting nature of it, and are at least very cautious and set themselves boundaries with it. Don't get caught up in it and take an honest evaluation of how you want to use it for your goals and find accountability to keep you from getting swept up in the frenzy. Consider what you post, take breaks from it, re-examine your use periodically, set limits.
Anyway, those are my thoughts and hope everyone has a great new year!
This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen on letsrun. To call everyone racist and to say distance runners just can't understand is asinine, foolish, and flat out disrespectful.
You will never be 1/100th of the coach, or man, that Petros is. He announced to his fans, and his team, exactly what was happening with Tara to clear the air of rumors. If anyone is hurt, offended, or pissed off about his tweet, grow the hell up and stop being a snowflake.
That was a rhetorical question.
Indoor? wrote:
do research wrote:
New NCAA Rule for extenuating circumstances such as Ole Miss' crazy amount of NCAA violations and how they misled Patterson:
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/April2018DICouncil_Report_20180427.pdfModification of NCAA Division I Committee for Legislative Relief NCAA Division I
Four-Year College Transfers Directive. The Council approved a modification, effective
immediately, for student-athletes seeking eligibility for the 2018-19 academic year and
thereafter, to the Committee for Legislative Relief four-year college undergraduate transfer
directive to include an academic analysis and permit immediate eligibility to be provided,
in limited circumstances, for student-athletes who are not eligible to use the one-time transfer exception. Specifically, immediate eligibility may be provided to a transfer
student-athlete, provided: (Fairness/Well-Being/Operational)
a. The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the
student-athlete's control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the
student-athlete;
b. At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would have
been athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team had
he or she remained at the previous institution;
c. The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-ofdegree requirements; and
d. The previous institution's athletics administration does not oppose the transfer
Important to look at item "d" - If Georgia opposes it then there is no avenue through the NCAA in which Tara can get released. But there is no indication that Part A in this scenario actually applies to Tara either - wanting to be closer to home is not sufficient.
How about item A. With fellow student athletes shouting racists comments in public. Likely how their back up QB will transfer without sitting out either.
All 4 must be met. But Tara definitely doesn't meet item A either.
I am shocked by the fact that anyone on this site gives a crap about a hurdler/jumper.
Track life wrote:
less than a week wrote:
Any updates? If she is released, she'd could be competing within a few days.
Quick update.. Appeal hearing being scheduled for next week.
More updates? She has to be planning to move into the dorms at Texas pretty soon.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!