Work with 16 year old who has averaged 25 miles a week for past 4 months and he just ran 4:19! What is his potential if I can build him up to 50 miles a wee k over next two years?
Work with 16 year old who has averaged 25 miles a week for past 4 months and he just ran 4:19! What is his potential if I can build him up to 50 miles a wee k over next two years?
Is that his first four month of training or was he training beforehand?
What sort of exercise background did he have before this if he was not training in track and field?
If he was running track semi-seriously for a year or two beforehand it's very good but not exceptional.
Obviously he’d run twice as fast, so 2:09.5. Noah Fencebutt it’s kind of sad that you couldn’t do this calculation on your own.
simple math wrote:
Obviously he’d run twice as fast, so 2:09.5. Noah Fencebutt it’s kind of sad that you couldn’t do this calculation on your own.
Lol quick maths
okay this is pretty cool and all but what did he run for a mile? 1600 is no indicator of actual mile time.
bob2u wrote:
Work with 16 year old who has averaged 25 miles a week for past 4 months and he just ran 4:19! What is his potential if I can build him up to 50 miles a wee k over next two years?
Probably sub 4 or very close to it.
You liar, if he's running 25 miles and week and ran a 4:19 1600m, he's running a few meters short of 26 miles.
Nice try!
How much quality and what cross training?
Typical smart coach, find success then reinvent the wheel. Just work on the little things then build him up later, mileage is not always the answer.
The only non senior who has run 4:19 this year has been running for 3 years so your credibility is called into question.
The sheer stupidity of all these responses is extreme even by LRC standards.
OP, if you are actually legit, you clearly have a talented runner on your hands. It's really hard to make an accurate assessment without knowing more extensive training history, but assuming incremental improvement with mileage, the lower end of 4:0X shouldn't be out of the question by spring of senior year. I'd be interested to know performance results at other distances as well.
Knew a runner in late 80's that ran a 4:10-11 mile off 25 mi per week max. This was his Senior year. quite talented.
By the time he was a freshman in college the coach was doubling his mileage - I think he made it through one cross country season and quit and never ran again. I remember talking to him and he was telling me he would be dropping out of college as it wasn't for him.
Just looking at some '87 California results now and he was 4:11 at the state meet.
Maybe it is best to let a runner continue to be low mileage until they feel they are ready to increase on their own. Then again maybe some runners not matter how talented just don't want to put in the miles or work period.
tfrrsftw wrote:
The sheer stupidity of all these responses is extreme even by LRC standards.
OP, if you are actually legit, you clearly have a talented runner on your hands. It's really hard to make an accurate assessment without knowing more extensive training history, but assuming incremental improvement with mileage, the lower end of 4:0X shouldn't be out of the question by spring of senior year. I'd be interested to know performance results at other distances as well.
Has run 1:55.9 for 800 and 4:02 in tactical 1500m.
Has done rowing as other sport. He is short on endurance but a keen competitor, have been coaching him for 2 years and he has progressed from 2:11/ 4:40 kid as 14 year old.
Funny the responses but should have expected it. I expect he will run 4:10 by outdoor spring.