Official 2018 CIM Prediction/Discussion Thread

Hehir for the win on the men's side. Best debut ever, becomes a bona fide Olympic contender.

Women's, I'm going Bruce. She's tough, and while its soon after NYC, she pulls it out.

Brogan Austin coming off his impressive win at the Indy Monumental Half of 62:39. Kiya ran 64:15 last year there and followed it up with his sub 2:13 performance, so Brogan should be close to sub 2:10 on this ski slope course.

An egregious 105 people qualify for the Olympic trials.

I predict Sage gets his OTQ dream goal!

Any way to watch online?

Wish I was there. wrote:

Brogan Austin coming off his impressive win at the Indy Monumental Half of 62:39. Kiya ran 64:15 last year there and followed it up with his sub 2:13 performance, so Brogan should be close to sub 2:10 on this ski slope course.

An egregious 105 people qualify for the Olympic trials.

Ha where are you from? Kansas? Nebraska? Have to laugh at Jerrys like you. I bet you are a climate change denying Trump voter as well. Ha ha!

The average intermediate ski slope is over 25%. CIM is at 0.22 %. God you are stupid. I feel sorry for you.

Ha ha uncoordinated flatlander wrote:

Wish I was there. wrote:

Brogan Austin coming off his impressive win at the Indy Monumental Half of 62:39. Kiya ran 64:15 last year there and followed it up with his sub 2:13 performance, so Brogan should be close to sub 2:10 on this ski slope course.

An egregious 105 people qualify for the Olympic trials.

Ha where are you from? Kansas? Nebraska? Have to laugh at Jerrys like you. I bet you are a climate change denying Trump voter as well. Ha ha!

The average intermediate ski slope is over 25%. CIM is at 0.22 %. God you are stupid. I feel sorry for you.

You're a loser, bud. Living alone must suck.

bbq26 wrote:

Who you got? Solid fields on both sides. Weather looks perfect.

I predict at least 4 course records go down (AGs) and multiple top 10 all-times.

The weather looks awesome.

STILIN WINS

We've published a preview of the race.

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2018/11/2018-cimusatf-marathon-champs-preview-watch-deepest-marathon-america/

For previous discussion of CIM, see the previous CIM thread which we've closed to new posts.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9111373

CIM is a *very* fast course, not the fastest but yes there is a course advantage even when weather isn't ideal and it's actually pretty good weather most years - it parallels a river and since of course water can only flow downhill, sooner or later it's downhill, all the way (just watch the USATF footage from 2017, the camera is almost always pointing at Stinson bounding down a hill)

(and statistically it's almost two minutes faster than NYC for similar elites)

https://i.imgur.com/5n3ymcq.jpg

USATFtv+ (the one you pay for)

skislope debate wrote:

(and statistically it's almost two minutes faster than NYC for similar elites)

https://i.imgur.com/5n3ymcq.jpg

But almost the same as Chicago. Main difference being the weather.

The marathon's to watch this weekend are Valencia in Spain and Fukuoka in Japan. Both should produce world class performances.

bbq26 wrote:

Who you got? Solid fields on both sides. Weather looks perfect.

Lauren and Kyle “big chuck” Masterson will be the fastest couple there.

Kyle will show everyone what 7550 feet of altitude is all about.

Lauren will crush a lot of women then come back to Alamosa and smack more women in the indoor 5k at their first meet.

This should be a really great & telling race on both sides.

I think anyone on the men's side can win it and we'll see if someone emerges and places themselves in the conversation for making the team in 2020.

On the women's side I like Bruce or Crouch to pull off the double like Hall did last year. Both of them ran 2:30-type efforts and could go under that on this course. Crouch was on 2:30 pace for much of Chicago, Bruce has run 2:29 and ran 2:30 at NYC. If the pack goes out honest I wouldn't be surprised at a 2:27-28 winning time and some PRs. I also wouldn't be surprised if Bates won and/or went sub-2:30. She's dropped some impressive results and seems like she has been strategically timing her debut and racking up some road racing experience at the longer distances.

I ran CIM last year and honestly don't get why people get so grumpy about it. Yea, it's a net downhill but it doesn't plunge downhill from the start. The front half is pretty honest and there are some climbs. The last 10k are wonderful because it's a very very slight downhill but you have to fuel and pace right to capitalize. It's too bad this is on USATF+. I'm not anti someone making money it's just that our sport isn't mainstream. I can watch scrub basketball teams all the time on ESPN and FS1 as a part of my package. These events just aren't quite big enough to demand a one time watch fee. Running as pay per view is sorta laughable. It should be free and they should run some ads and interrupt our coverage every 15-20 minutes. They'd get more viewers and more revenue if they do that.

Rooting for Emma all the way! I hope she wins and goes sub 2:30.

fastt wrote:

STILIN WINS

If not Joe, then one of his ZAP teammates Andrew Colley, Matt McClintock, or Josh Izewski. It wouldn't surprise me to see all 4 of those guys in the top 10.

Wish I was there. wrote:

Brogan Austin coming off his impressive win at the Indy Monumental Half of 62:39. Kiya ran 64:15 last year there and followed it up with his sub 2:13 performance, so Brogan should be close to sub 2:10 on this ski slope course.

An egregious 105 people qualify for the Olympic trials.

Good pick. The dude had a great run at Monumental.

tenkrunner wrote:

Any way to watch online?

Yes, Runnerspace and it's cheap! $12.99 for a month gets you 30 days of whatever events they are showing plus archived races. Sorry, but you can't beat that! No affiliation whatsoever with the site, I just think that's a great price to be able to watch many races live for the next 30 days!