Tempo run on a treadmill

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

jakob ingebrigtsen does a lot of thresholds at altitude on the treadmill

Predictor wrote:

and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

Yes you are.

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

Jesus christ, this again?!

If you're doing this because it is windy outside, just run against the wind. So, what if you do your tempo run a bit slower.

I can go faster on the mill than outside: lower perceived effort since it acts as a pacer and determines the speed.

Also surface is way softer than the roads so my legs aren’t as beat up after.

Not this sht again! wrote:

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

Jesus christ, this again?!

Who cares about that, would the plane take off?

if it was solar powered or some sht wrote:

Not this sht again! wrote:

Jesus christ, this again?!

Who cares about that, would the plane take off?

Of course! As long as it’s a small plane or a large treadmill.

Just crank the speed or incline up a bit to make it more challenging. I always resort to the treadmill when my speed isn't where I need to be and force myself to go faster.

Use this to see the estimated treadmill to road pace.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hillrunner.com/calculators/treadmill-pace-conversions/%3famp

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

Dumbest post of the week award!

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

Dumb*ss

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

You're basically just standing in place and lifting your legs up and down.

Spot on wrote:

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

You're basically just standing in place and lifting your legs up and down.

LOL! Now this is the dumbest post of the week!

OMFG it boggles my mind how many people feel this way! The treadmill ALWAYS feels harder to me. I consistently run 30-60 seconds slower per mile on the treadmill with the same perceived effort as outside. Why do I seem to be the anomaly here? I promise you it's not the mental thing either; boredom doesn't bother me.

omgggg wrote:

OMFG it boggles my mind how many people feel this way! The treadmill ALWAYS feels harder to me. I consistently run 30-60 seconds slower per mile on the treadmill with the same perceived effort as outside. Why do I seem to be the anomaly here? I promise you it's not the mental thing either; boredom doesn't bother me.

How often do you run on the treadmill?

Nothing wrong with doing the tempo on the treadmill, but you need to factor in the fact that it's definitely easier to run on the 'mill. The calculator referenced above is a decent place to start, but for example if I was looking to hit a tempo at 6:20 pace I'd probably set the treadmill on 6:00-6:05 pace at 0.5 incline.

In fact you should always have the incline on at least 0.5 or 1.0 - easier on the knees.

Well is there wrote:

Is there a difference between a tempo on a treadmill vs on the road in terms of benefits derived?

Is there a difference? Maybe

The real question is whether treadmills can be an effective training tool, specifically with tempo runs, and I think they answer is yes.

If you are training alone, it can be difficult to concentrate enough to maintain the pace you want during a tempo run. Treadmill can fix this problem. Sometimes it helps to just zone out and hit a certain pace for a period of time. Less pounding on the legs doesn't hurt either.

If you live in an area with cold weather and snow, I think the treadmill is a great training tool in the winter.

HobbyJogging.com wrote:

Well is there wrote:

Is there a difference between a tempo on a treadmill vs on the road in terms of benefits derived?

Is there a difference? Maybe

The real question is whether treadmills can be an effective training tool, specifically with tempo runs, and I think they answer is yes.

If you are training alone, it can be difficult to concentrate enough to maintain the pace you want during a tempo run. Treadmill can fix this problem. Sometimes it helps to just zone out and hit a certain pace for a period of time. Less pounding on the legs doesn't hurt either.

If you live in an area with cold weather and snow, I think the treadmill is a great training tool in the winter.

It doesn't require concentration to maintain proper tempo pace. It is a comfortably hard effort, ideally with negative splits.

Spot on wrote:

Predictor wrote:

The road is always going to be harder which probably means, more beneficial. It is much easier to maintain an absolutely constant pace on a treadmill and you aren't really propelling your body weight forward.

You're basically just standing in place and lifting your legs up and down.

Are you folks in 2nd grade or something?