Need advice for new shoes

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    Totti

    Member since 11/13/2018.

    2 posts. Last post 5 years ago.
    5 years ago 11/13/2018 11:36am EST

    Hi, I'm from Germany and I'm training Muay thai. SINCE this year I took the running more serious. I run 5 km or 10km per session with a pace of 4.40/km for my easy morning 5km run.

    My old shoes were hoka vanquish3.

    At the moment I run in Nike free rn motion flyknit and my technique improved a lot, I don't heel strike anymore.

    I have wide feet and overpronate.

    I don't want a shoe with a lot cushion and I only want 0-6mm drop.

    The shoe must be light and allow a natural movement.

    I tried the Pegasus 35 but it was to narrow , size up and heel come loose.

    My favourites are:

    Saucony kinvara/freedom Iso2

    Altra escalante

    New balance 890

    Skechers ride 7

    Nike free rn flyknit

    Which shoe can you recommend? I'm open for New advices

    Thank you very much in advance

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    SunRunner82

    Member since 11/13/2018.

    221 posts. Last post 10 months ago.
    5 years ago 11/13/2018 1:28pm EST
    re: Totti

    You kind of answered your own question, but for me personally I'd go with the NBs

  • alex'

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    5 years ago 11/13/2018 1:30pm EST
    re: Totti

    vibram five fingers

  • savant

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    5 years ago 11/13/2018 5:09pm EST
    re: alex'

    alex' wrote:

    vibram five fingers

    Does your Mom know you are on the computer ?

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    Mid Pack Jack

    Member since 08/09/2018.

    10 posts. Last post 5 years ago.
    5 years ago 11/13/2018 5:34pm EST
    re: alex'

    I have had multiple pairs of Altra Escalantes, Kinvaras and Skecher GRR7s. FWIW these are my thoughts --

    Kinvaras are light, not highly cushioned as you want -- but the Kinvara9 heel seems enhanced for stability over the version 7 and 8s. Great upper with nice room and secure feeling. Don't feel super natural to me but I did marathons in both Kinvara8 and 9. Worth a try.

    Skechers aren't the lightest of the group, but do have nice responsive cushion. More of a rocker profile. Better without the insole (removable) and good for long runs up to marathon. Most of my long runs this year in GRR7s. Great shoe for long easy miles or with tempo stuff mixed in.

    Escalantes are great and fun. I always reach for these when I'm tired or sore and need to get in some easy miles. Cushioning is plush but has great rebound, almost bouncy. The toe room to me is a great feature but is something to get used to. I had to size down a half size because the upper is real stretchy. I really enjoy them but it may be too cushioned based on your requirements. But if you want less cushion -- check out the Escalante Racer - same Escalante shape, less stretchy upper for better lock-in, and just enough cushion for most any distance. I have a pair of these too - they are great if you are used to a zero drop platform. And light. Much better for faster stuff than regular Escalantes for sure.

    Lastly - you may want to also try the New Balance Beacon. Its light, 6mm drop, generous width and more natural feeling than the Kinvaras.

    Good luck.

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    Totti

    Member since 11/13/2018.

    2 posts. Last post 5 years ago.
    5 years ago 11/14/2018 6:17am EST
    re: Mid Pack Jack

    Mid Pack Jack wrote:

    I have had multiple pairs of Altra Escalantes, Kinvaras and Skecher GRR7s. FWIW these are my thoughts --

    Kinvaras are light, not highly cushioned as you want -- but the Kinvara9 heel seems enhanced for stability over the version 7 and 8s. Great upper with nice room and secure feeling. Don't feel super natural to me but I did marathons in both Kinvara8 and 9. Worth a try.

    Skechers aren't the lightest of the group, but do have nice responsive cushion. More of a rocker profile. Better without the insole (removable) and good for long runs up to marathon. Most of my long runs this year in GRR7s. Great shoe for long easy miles or with tempo stuff mixed in.

    Escalantes are great and fun. I always reach for these when I'm tired or sore and need to get in some easy miles. Cushioning is plush but has great rebound, almost bouncy. The toe room to me is a great feature but is something to get used to. I had to size down a half size because the upper is real stretchy. I really enjoy them but it may be too cushioned based on your requirements. But if you want less cushion -- check out the Escalante Racer - same Escalante shape, less stretchy upper for better lock-in, and just enough cushion for most any distance. I have a pair of these too - they are great if you are used to a zero drop platform. And light. Much better for faster stuff than regular Escalantes for sure.

    Lastly - you may want to also try the New Balance Beacon. Its light, 6mm drop, generous width and more natural feeling than the Kinvaras.

    Good luck.

    Thank you for your detailed informations,

    Idk if the normal escalante is to soft, can you compare it with the Nike free flyknit?

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    Mid Pack Jack

    Member since 08/09/2018.

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    5 years ago 11/14/2018 7:23am EST
    re: Totti

    Unfortunately have not tried those Nikes. I have the Nike Zoom Fly; Zoom Fly Flyknit and Vaporfly Flyknits -- all much different in design and specs to Altras.

    If you can get to a shop it would be worth it to try on the Escalantes and the Escalante Racer and compare to your current shoes. They have a unique fit and feel you should experience.

    If you need any kind of stability, they are probably not your best bet, but I do enjoy them for easy runs, walks and would wear them all day around the office if I could get away with it.

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