I just voted in NY without ID - good thing or bad thing?

ba-na-na wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

If the evil liberals wanted to do so it would involve a large group of people. Good luck keeping it a secret.

Except that people DO talk about this all the time (all levels, registration, voting, counting, all). Just there's ZERO prosecution of it, and the cover story of fraud being a "right-wing conspiracy theory" is floated instead. Real countries prove they take democracy seriously by the manner they hold elections, your USA does not.

“I think I have served the purpose that I came here for, which was to provide a credible election product for our voters,” said Snipes last week during a press conference.

Oh, you are the one wise person who knows there is voter fraud! Show your proof. I am sure you called FBI or your attorney general in your state and you turned over your proof to law enforcement.

In the December runoff between Moscone and Barbagelata, Peoples Temple went even further to secure victory for its candidate. On the eve of the election, Jones filled buses with temple members in Redwood Valley and Los Angeles and shuttled them to San Francisco. Security at polling places was lax on Election Day, and many nonresidents were able to cast their ballots for Moscone, some more than once. “You could have run around to 1200 precincts and voted 1200 times,” said a bitter Barbagelata later, after losing by a whisper of a margin. But he was not the only one who claimed that the Peoples Temple stole the election for George Moscone. Temple leaders also claimed credit.

Apropos to today's 40th anniv wrote:

In the December runoff between Moscone and Barbagelata, Peoples Temple went even further to secure victory for its candidate. On the eve of the election, Jones filled buses with temple members in Redwood Valley and Los Angeles and shuttled them to San Francisco. Security at polling places was lax on Election Day, and many nonresidents were able to cast their ballots for Moscone, some more than once. “You could have run around to 1200 precincts and voted 1200 times,” said a bitter Barbagelata later, after losing by a whisper of a margin. But he was not the only one who claimed that the Peoples Temple stole the election for George Moscone. Temple leaders also claimed credit.

Good thing that Dem Party USA doesn't act like a cult anymore.....

One problem (from someone who has volunteered at polls) is that irregularities are so common, it's almost impossible to *prove* fraud (to a Dem judge standard) rather than bumbling incompetence. Of course this aspect is not neglected by the nefarious....

Why did you vote w/o Idaho? I'd say that's a good thing in New York.

Brenda Snipes has been accused (including both during and prior to Broward 2018) of:

1.) Illegally destroying ballots

2.) Not mailing out absentee ballots

3.) Systemic breakdowns making it difficult for Floridians to cast votes

4.) Posted election results BEFORE POLLS CLOSED!

5.) Sued for leaving amendments off the ballots

6.) Did not notify voters their absentee ballot expired

7.) Having staffers campaign while on the clock

8.) Problems publishing ballots

9.) Ballot stuffing

10.) Voters receiving defective ballots

11.) Piles of ballots cropped up way after Election Day

12.) Opening ballots in private

13.) In 2016, just days before the November election, Republicans sued Brenda Snipes for illegally opening thousands of mail-in ballots before the election without supervision.

Each of the above is criminal activity, but no/one will prosecute of/c. She even admitted IN COURT they were non-citizens voting in Broward.

And yet, she retired in peace after over a decade of so-called "service"...

There is effectively zero barrier against rampant fraud in USA elections.

you dont even need a majority of the people to prefer fraudulent elections to have them become endemic. something like 40-45% probably will do, 10-15% active, and 30-35% just pretending nothing is amiss.

On Sunday night Florida Democrat Tim Canova called on criminal investigations and prosecutions against Brenda Snipes and her staff.

(Likely to fall on deaf ears, of/c, they know whom to protect...)

https://twitter.com/Tim_Canova/status/1064354596448059392

https://twitter.com/Tim_Canova/status/1062529601279279105

Socrates wrote:

So does that group of people not do anything that requires and ID? You need ID to get a job and to drive a car. I don't believe there is a large number of people that want to vote but can't get an ID

I'm curious. What sort of job do you need that requires ID? I never needed ID for any job I had other than driving a taxi and that was because there was a special license involved .

Actually, it turns out the Real Fraud was by Republicans in NC. They still haven't certified, the case is so bad. Surprised, anyone?

Wtfbbq wrote:

agerawegfasdf wrote:

Wejo himself gave a perfectly reasonable argument for not needing an ID: sometimes people forget. Some people (especially New Yorkers) don't carry around a driver's license.

It also keeps people with extremely limited resources from voting.

Voter fraud can happen but it’s really difficult and really unlikely.

i think voter fraud is large numbers is pretty difficult, but to say that people with limited resources can't afford an ID is really unlikely as well. Its about 10-20 dollars for a state ID... if that is too expensive, then they wouldn't be voting anyway because the cost of gas or public transportation would limit them as well.

Liberal Democrats don't want voter ID. I wonder why.

they compare signatures to the signature on your registration form