I just voted in NY without ID - good thing or bad thing?

I live in a state (TN) and I have to show my ID to vote (like I did today). It makes no sense, you have to show a ID to buy a beer, but not to vote.

You'd still have to have access to the names of all of the potential voters in the area, AND hope none of them show up. Not impossible, obviously, but not easy.

My argument for Voter IDs (and against same-day registration) is that it forces the citizen to decide before the election that they want to vote. In other words, it helps protect against the emotional decisions of the voting-on-a-whimmers.

theJeff wrote:

You'd still have to have access to the names of all of the potential voters in the area, AND hope none of them show up. Not impossible, obviously, but not easy.

My argument for Voter IDs (and against same-day registration) is that it forces the citizen to decide before the election that they want to vote. In other words, it helps protect against the emotional decisions of the voting-on-a-whimmers.

Wow that would be horrible!

Wejo himself gave a perfectly reasonable argument for not needing an ID: sometimes people forget. Some people (especially New Yorkers) don't carry around a driver's license.

I'm now curious as to what they do when you register to vote?

Are they checking some database to see if I'm legit?

And that has to be done in advance so I figure there is something they're doing behind scenes.

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Also one thing I'd never thought of but all the democrats where on the left hand column of the ballot. Is that common? I think they should randomize the party position on the ballot.

wejo wrote:

Also one thing I'd never thought of but all the democrats where on the left hand column of the ballot. Is that common? I think they should randomize the party position on the ballot.

It is typical (in many states) that the leading votegetter's party from the previous election is the party that's listed first. Whether that's the process in NYS--or it's simply done alphabetically--I don't know.

Most of my votes were cast for the Working Families Party or the Women's Equality Party, both well over to the right on the ballot--and both, of course, late in the alphabet.

Wejo,

Whom did you vote for?

Lol!

Just kidding.

That signature you referred to is what they are checking for authenticity.

Voted in upstate N.Y., No one asked to see my ID

agerawegfasdf wrote:

Wejo himself gave a perfectly reasonable argument for not needing an ID: sometimes people forget. Some people (especially New Yorkers) don't carry around a driver's license.

It also keeps people with extremely limited resources from voting.

Voter fraud can happen but it’s really difficult and really unlikely.

It's a great thing.......

It means you can Vote For Trump a few more times!!!!!

M.A.G.A.

Well, let's ask racist liberal white people about what they think about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

wejo wrote:

I'm now curious as to what they do when you register to vote?

Are they checking some database to see if I'm legit?

Just as long as your name matches up with with any random headstone in Calvary Cemetery, Queens, NY you;re all good, wejo.

Next November I'm going to your polling site on the upper west side at 6 AM and vote as Weldon Johnson.

wejo wrote:

Also one thing I'd never thought of but all the democrats where on the left hand column of the ballot. Is that common? I think they should randomize the party position on the ballot.

I live in PA, and when I voted yesterday, the candidates were lined up left to right as "democrat", "republication", "libertarian", and "green" for each row we were voting for. At the same time, I think the font size for the party affiliation was smaller than the candidate's last name (I know there were different font sizes but I didn't pay too much attention as to which was bigger than the other). I think this is supposed to make it easier for people who only wish to vote along the party lines on our electronic voting machines, as there is also an option at the bottom of each column "vote for this party only".

Welcome to freedom, brother. Don't need an ID where rojo lives, either. I was asked for my name, address, and birthdate when I voted. In theory someone could have known that stuff about me and voted for me, but seems like a stretch. Especially as I waited 60+ minutes to vote.

To commit voter fraud, you would have to know someone that is registered to vote in that precinct and then vote before them. Pretty unlikely. The scrutiny, if there is much needed, is on the registration side.

And honestly, I don't know why anyone "goes to vote" anymore. Colorado does state-wide mail-in ballots. Vote at your convenience. Forcing people to go to a polling center on a certain day, between certain times, disenfranchises a lot of voters.

Wtfbbq wrote:

agerawegfasdf wrote:

Wejo himself gave a perfectly reasonable argument for not needing an ID: sometimes people forget. Some people (especially New Yorkers) don't carry around a driver's license.

It also keeps people with extremely limited resources from voting.

Voter fraud can happen but it’s really difficult and really unlikely.

I'm of the same mind. If voter fraud were as widespread as alleged, and strict-proof-of-legitimate-voter advocacy were more evenly spread among states/histories/parties, then I'd be more in favor.

A tough line to toe, but I'm more in favor of having fewer barriers to vote than more. At what point will a restriction affect you? (I was thinking of the case of my sister-in-law, who brought her early-stage-dementia mother to the polls. The mother did not/could not be clearly informed and, according to my sister-in-law, picked one candidate because "she went to school with someone with that last name." Should that woman be disallowed to vote because of her mind?)

Wejo, when you registered to vote, did you do so at the DMV? Did you not have to prove your identity at that time with pieces of mail, an SSN card, or other official documents?

At worst, someone could show up to your polling place and claim to be you and vote for you. When you arrive, you see your vote has been cast fraudulently. You can then dispute it by proving you are the real wejo. This scenario, as it has been proven many times, is abysmally unlikely to occur,and is more likely due to simple error rather than maleficence when committed.

Racist Liberals wrote:

Well, let's ask racist liberal white people about what they think about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

I almost feel bad for those students/young people in Berkley. They are truly delusional, but have been taught to think like that. I graduated a from a Midwest college a few years back and upon starting in the workforce realized even how crazy left wing the school/professors/students are.

I remember second guessing myself on unpopular opinions of my classmates all the time...