It’s ridiculous that the East Africans at NY run about 2:06 and top American is 2:12

Ggggggvv wrote:

What can Americans do to get faster?

Have parents from East Africa.

Have the same kind of pharmacies they have.

In the US make epo available over the counter and remove all out of competition testing.

Just being honest here wrote:

Have the same kind of pharmacies they have.

There is either an inherent biological difference or there are PEDS involved.

I’m leaning towards an inherent biological advantage. That said, it still boggles my mind that some humans can run that fast for that far.

Hmm. wrote:

In the US make epo available over the counter and remove all out of competition testing.

I'm ignorant about how strict they are in East Africa. Is it really that widespread and not managed?

Ggggggvv wrote:

What can Americans do to get faster?

Give citizenship to East Africans. Now America is FAST!!

cbenson4 wrote:

Hmm. wrote:

In the US make epo available over the counter and remove all out of competition testing.

I'm ignorant about how strict they are in East Africa. Is it really that widespread and not managed?

I’d be dropped by the 1/2 mile mark wrote:

Just being honest here wrote:

Have the same kind of pharmacies they have.

There is either an inherent biological difference or there are PEDS involved.

I’m leaning towards an inherent biological advantage. That said, it still boggles my mind that some humans can run that fast for that far.

No offense, but if you were smarter you would know that it could be both as well as other factors you failed to mention.

George213 wrote:

drivel

FFS Coevett, find a new video.

Give it a rest Coevett wrote:

George213 wrote:

drivel

FFS Coevett, find a new video.

0/10 ?

I’d be dropped by the 1/2 mile mark wrote:

Just being honest here wrote:

Have the same kind of pharmacies they have.

There is either an inherent biological difference or there are PEDS involved.

I’m leaning towards an inherent biological advantage. That said, it still boggles my mind that some humans can run that fast for that far.

If PEDS were the main reason why weren't the Russians faster?

more than meets the eye wrote:

I’d be dropped by the 1/2 mile mark wrote:

There is either an inherent biological difference or there are PEDS involved.

I’m leaning towards an inherent biological advantage. That said, it still boggles my mind that some humans can run that fast for that far.

If PEDS were the main reason why weren't the Russians faster?

First, Russia isn't the best training environment. Two, race walks. Three, culture has a big part of it. Wrestling is Russia's main sport at the Olympics.

Two things:

- not play soccer (takes away lots of potentially good runners)

- not have college available as a means of preparing for a career (takes away motivation to do well financially via running).

1955 wrote:

Two things:

- not play soccer (takes away lots of potentially good runners)

- not have college available as a means of preparing for a career (takes away motivation to do well financially via running).

I agree with the lack of financial motivation. In America you can make a lot of money sitting on your a#%. But I don’t know soccer because that sport is incredibly popular in Africa. And playing soccer at a young age develops a lot Lord endurance than baseball or football

Stop posting work out hero pics on IG and actually concentrate on training at a humbling regimen.

more than meets the eye wrote:

I’d be dropped by the 1/2 mile mark wrote:

There is either an inherent biological difference or there are PEDS involved.

I’m leaning towards an inherent biological advantage. That said, it still boggles my mind that some humans can run that fast for that far.

If PEDS were the main reason why weren't the Russians faster?

In Russia, men don't run. That's considered for women. Men lift and fight. Also, Russian men are not small.

If you noticed the last World Wrestling Champs from last week, Russian men won half the freestyle gold medals and 75% of the Greco Roman.

This is the reason why Russian women still hold running world records, and have had some of the top marathon times. If they let the Russian women run right now, they'd be right there with all of the doping East Africans.

problem #1 wrote:

more than meets the eye wrote:

If PEDS were the main reason why weren't the Russians faster?

In Russia, men don't run. That's considered for women. Men lift and fight. Also, Russian men are not small.

If you noticed the last World Wrestling Champs from last week, Russian men won half the freestyle gold medals and 75% of the Greco Roman.

This is the reason why Russian women still hold running world records, and have had some of the top marathon times. If they let the Russian women run right now, they'd be right there with all of the doping East Africans.

No...Russian men don't run, they walk. Race walking is big time for the Russian men. And of course doping is a big problem for Russian race walkers also (no surprises there. ?).

jiaaf wrote:

I’d be dropped by the 1/2 mile mark wrote:

There is either an inherent biological difference or there are PEDS involved.

I’m leaning towards an inherent biological advantage. That said, it still boggles my mind that some humans can run that fast for that far.

No offense, but if you were smarter you would know that it could be both as well as other factors you failed to mention.

It can be both, but if you were smart you would realize that it would still mean that ped use is essential to Kenyan domination. Kenyans might be able to produce (because of their body types, which might not be entirely genetic) countless runners with the ability to naturally run 2:10 if they spend their lives devoted to it. Give them almost free reign to dope themselves silly with an endurance drug that could probably take at least 5 minutes off of their time, and not only will you have legions of sub 2:10 runners, but it will have a massively demotivating effect on non Kenyan/doped runners, whose times will tend to go backwards.

If Kenyans are inherently so above the rest of the world (apart from Ethiopia, which just so happens to be another country where EPO is available over the counter in every high street pharmacy), then surely they would do a bit better in other sports. Nearly all sports award an advantage to aerobic ability. There are guys in a sport as brutal and yet technical as MMA/the UFC who get to the top a large part due to their ability to simply keep the pressure when their opponents simply run out of gas (examples the Diaz borthers, Bisping). Yet Kenyans can't seem to even compete in any other sport other than distance running.

It also ironic, to say the least, that the most famous and richest athlete in Kenyan sporting history, is a pasty faced Scottish born kid who dominated the other (and far more lucrative) aerobic sport of cycling.