Another marathon cheater, this time it’s a lady cutting courses and riding her bike for 2:45 marathons

Mods, time to end this one. Dunes and his other 100 handles are lost in delusion.

Yeah but... wrote:

... You do appreciate these two points appear quite contradictory?

Not at all, "out of your mind" is quite a dramatic accusation requiring some serious evidence from a qualified individual, not being highly literate and over-emotional is not really anything like that.

BeALight wrote:

Maybe you should do more research into the incident you would see that she was cleared when they found that her supplements that were PERFECTLY FINE for athletes was cross contaminated. She has a huge following because she focusing on building up others. She is happy and is a light to those around her. Happy people are drawn to happy uplifting people. She spoke openly about the whole thing, her followers are very much aware of the crosscontamination. Sucks thats that people can’t just let someone succeed and worry about their own progress.

Is it really success if a pro who should know better cuts a course and tries to cover it up? Is it progress if the agreed upon USATF rules of a sport are ignored?

BeALight wrote:

Maybe you should do more research into the incident you would see that she was cleared when they found that her supplements that were PERFECTLY FINE for athletes was cross contaminated. She has a huge following because she focusing on building up others. She is happy and is a light to those around her. Happy people are drawn to happy uplifting people. She spoke openly about the whole thing, her followers are very much aware of the crosscontamination. Sucks thats that people can’t just let someone succeed and worry about their own progress.

What a crock. Instaspeak gobbledegook. She focuses on herself like all shallow narcissists do. And she wasn't "cleared" she was banned for six months, you apologist troll. (Actually more likely to be Ashley than anyone so far). And no mention of the cheating, course cutting and lying I notice. Probably a bit more difficult to spin.

"Happy people are drawn to happy uplifting people." Vacuous empty-headed sycophants are drawn to posing, bullshitting, shallow snake oil salesmen, more like.

"Sucks thats that people can’t just let someone succeed and worry about their own progress" This line really takes the cake. who thought that "succeed" was a synonym for steal, cheat and deceive. Yes everyone should let her "succeed" by cutting courses and shooting up with Ostarine. Only a spoilsport would have any problem with that sort of "success".

BeALight wrote:

Maybe you should do more research into the incident you would see that she was cleared when they found that her supplements that were PERFECTLY FINE for athletes was cross contaminated. She has a huge following because she focusing on building up others. She is happy and is a light to those around her. Happy people are drawn to happy uplifting people. She spoke openly about the whole thing, her followers are very much aware of the crosscontamination. Sucks thats that people can’t just let someone succeed and worry about their own progress.

Yes, a well known problem that happens to all of us who find steroids and PED's in our vitamin tablets and energy drinks. Did you know that it turns out Ben Johnson't porridge was actually cross-contaminated with Stanozolol. Yes it's true. I blame those Quakers.

elementary school teacher wrote:

Walter,

Without paragraphs, your argument looks more like a rant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph

Elementary School Teacher: without anything more substantial to add, your nit-picking about paragraphs looks more like the ranting of a t!t.

LRC Troller moving the goal post wrote:

Nope. Go back and read the mind-numbingly stupid early protestations on this thread. They all said in effect, that this woman skipped the "all uphill" and ran the "all downhill".

NOT TRUE

I get that running up and down a hill is more difficult than running around it. That's not what was argued here though. What was argued was that , (in whining, crying, safe space invaded voice) "but she cut off the most difficult part, and ran the easiest part. Simply not possible.

You are mistaken. Before Walter even entered the thread, it was Runmaster who posted that Ashley missed all the hills at the end and had a downhill run to the finish.

It is halfwits like you who then piped in with "this is impossible". "How can she have a straight downhill run from where she cut the course while everyone else gets their legs trashed by hills. Don't you morans understand the net elevation gain has to be the same? You are all stoopid whilst I is very clever and smug".

It has then been pointed out to you that she can indeed run steadily downhill while other ascend 100m then descend 120m followed by a 70m ascent and an 80m descent etc etc. You are now trying to retroactively claim that it was stated at the start of the thread that Ashley had an overall greater amount of descent from the start of the race than everyone else, which wasn't originally claimed and certainly not argued. The "all downhill" was claimed to be from the point she cut the course.

This is word for word what Runmaster posted explaining this before Walter ever joined the thread:

"the incorrect route that she took continued downhill to the finish. A totally straight shot on a parkway with one 90 degree turn. The correct race course has significant uphill, and several 90 degree turns ( and one 270 degree turn where you run under the parkway) as the course winds thru some neighborhoods"

Note she says that the correct race course has significant uphill and not all uphill, which is what you keep trying to assert as an excuse for your obvious obtuseness and predilection for attacking one of the people who was cheated rather than the person who lied to, and cheated everyone.

Walter is a CHEAT wrote:

Changing the Narrative. wrote:

people who defend cheats are no better than cheats and liars themselves. See you even lied about what has been said, right there. Simply incorrigible...

Stop defending that Jackass.

You are the only one here who is defending Ashley.

These are her Triathlon times:

2010 St G IM: 14:07

2011 St G IM: 13:12

2012 St G IM: 14:57

2013 Cozumel IM: 10:07 (with a 2:58 marathon 8 weeks earlier)

Can anyone spot when the juice started flowing?

Also here's the thread on Slowtwitch when she was busted.

https://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Another_Triathlon_Doping_Bust_P5906447/

Far more damning and disbelieving of her over there than on this thread. Seems she was the object of suspicion for some time and gives a lot of credence to Walter's assertion that most of this is public, but unspoken knowledge. There's even a link to an interview she gave prior to the bust where she mentions "nasty rumours about me taking drugs". Mmmm she knows about the rumours and the accidentally consumes a supplement contaminated with an illegal SARM thereafter.

Oh and according to her interview she believes that the body can do amazing things if you are positive and motivated enough and that you can go on and hit personal bests well into your mid forties! And she works at Golds Gym. Nothing pointing to knowingly doping whatsoever...

Wow, thanks for this.

I'd read the entire thread and was convinced she was definitely clean and was just being bad mouthed by the ravings of a lunatic but now that you've made this unique post it all becomes clear!

Strange definition of success wrote:

Is it really success if a pro who should know better cuts a course and tries to cover it up? Is it progress if the agreed upon USATF rules of a sport are ignored?

She tried to dover it up, by telling everyone about it and by posting what she did on the internet.

From Runmaster:

Up to that point, the race is a pretty steep downhill, so you trash your legs flying down the hills, then have to switch to uphill running with multiple turns when your legs are hamburger. It is a hard switch to make. On some of the uphill part, my pace had slowed by 90-2:00 per mile. (Sadly- wish it could have been better) She got to run a straight downhill course with one turn on her hamburger legs.

From Walter:

the route she took was downhill vs. our uphill

Vindication is mine, and sweet!

Nah, she didn't dope. wrote:

Can anyone spot when the juice started flowing?

When you poked an extra hole in your head?

No you go back and read. wrote:

Before Walter even entered the thread, it was Runmaster who posted that Ashley missed all the hills at the end and had a downhill run to the finish.

Runmaster, Runwithwalter, and you, are all the same person.

Every post made by you and your various other nicknames all have the same failed logic and mental instabilities.

No you go back you troll wrote:

From Runmaster:

Up to that point, the race is a pretty steep downhill, so you trash your legs flying down the hills, then have to switch to uphill running with multiple turns when your legs are hamburger. It is a hard switch to make. On some of the uphill part, my pace had slowed by 90-2:00 per mile. (Sadly- wish it could have been better) She got to run a straight downhill course with one turn on her hamburger legs.

From Walter:

the route she took was downhill vs. our uphill

Vindication is mine, and sweet!

Absolutely amazing! And you still can't see that this doesn't say everyone else had all uphill and Ashley All downhill as you originally claimed. Talk about dense.

Ashley cheated. What else duz u want to know?

And now it's you wrote:

No you go back and read. wrote:

Before Walter even entered the thread, it was Runmaster who posted that Ashley missed all the hills at the end and had a downhill run to the finish.

Runmaster, Runwithwalter, and you, are all the same person.

Every post made by you and your various other nicknames all have the same failed logic and mental instabilities.

And what other handles have you posted under?

Is this thread really nine pages of people arguing whether "downhill" implies "all downhill" and whether it's easier to run around a hill rather than over it?

Xxx Entacion wrote:

Ashley cheated. What else duz u want to know?

This is correct!

It isn't fair of that woman to keep beating me and my friends!

We should ban her from all races from now on! So she won't keep beating me.