The thing is there is more money and many more sponsorship opportunities for any American who can be competitive on the World stage in the marathon as opposed to the track. You'd think that would be enough to motivate more to really go for it earlier in their careers.
If money is the motovation, why bother running at all, you can almost certainly earn more using your college degree than your legs.
A lot of people rather get paid less for doing something they love vs getting paid more for something they hate.
It should further added/kept in mind that at the top level, American marathoning wasn’t ever as deep or fast as it was lionized to have been - i.e. we don’t even have a history of many record-eligible sub-2:10s. Throw out the thyroid meds and the US-born AR is 2:09:32! Quite similar to the Canadian situation.
I realize it’s been 4 years but she now admits using thyroid meds in her new book. She was critical of Ritz for this exact reason and then admits to using herself. I understand that it is not illegal but she was the one that was outraged by Ritz. She also claims that she didn’t want to be associated with anyone that was a part of Salazar’s team. Now she has a podcast with Kara. Weird stances across the board.
At least she admits it. Maybe she draws the line at L-Carnitine injection. Kara once gently commented that maybe injection is the line not to cross, which I took to mean that she took thyroid meds and everything else not technically illegal. Kara's been extremely vocal about exposing Salazar, so if you can't see the difference there with Des not wanting to associate with Salazar's team I can't help you.
Ritz has testified against Salazar too, so she could have a softer stance toward him. The Hansons really embraced him as an upstanding guy, even knowing everything about him, so maybe there's tension there. Like he's so easily accepted as a son figure and they let her go.
I realize it’s been 4 years but she now admits using thyroid meds in her new book. She was critical of Ritz for this exact reason and then admits to using herself. I understand that it is not illegal but she was the one that was outraged by Ritz. She also claims that she didn’t want to be associated with anyone that was a part of Salazar’s team. Now she has a podcast with Kara. Weird stances across the board.
At least she admits it. Maybe she draws the line at L-Carnitine injection. Kara once gently commented that maybe injection is the line not to cross, which I took to mean that she took thyroid meds and everything else not technically illegal. Kara's been extremely vocal about exposing Salazar, so if you can't see the difference there with Des not wanting to associate with Salazar's team I can't help you.
Ritz has testified against Salazar too, so she could have a softer stance toward him. The Hansons really embraced him as an upstanding guy, even knowing everything about him, so maybe there's tension there. Like he's so easily accepted as a son figure and they let her go.
hell hath no fury...you know the rest.
and i don't trust ANY of these people. all around.
It would be a perfect thing that only LetsRun could pull off, like the agent survey on sponsorship income.
Ask very single elite runner to answer on the record:
- "Have you ever taken thyroid medication?"
- "Are you currently taking thyroid medication?"
And, for those who are taking thyroxin and related meds:
- "What was your pre-treatment TSH level? "
- "What is the target TSH level for your treatment?"
Put the answers in a table. For those who won't participate, let their silence speak for itself.
I realize it’s been 4 years but she now admits using thyroid meds in her new book. She was critical of Ritz for this exact reason and then admits to using herself. I understand that it is not illegal but she was the one that was outraged by Ritz. She also claims that she didn’t want to be associated with anyone that was a part of Salazar’s team. Now she has a podcast with Kara. Weird stances across the board.
This board has asked Wejo or Rojo or Gault to ask Des about her own use of gray area supplements while she stood on her soap box ridiculing ALL other athletes who were doing the same thing she was. Kara and Ritz both testified in court against Salazar and many of us still don’t forgive them because they didn’t admit to taking PEDs. That would be okay if this is why Des was anti Ritz. But why a podcast with Kara?
I realize it’s been 4 years but she now admits using thyroid meds in her new book. She was critical of Ritz for this exact reason and then admits to using herself. I understand that it is not illegal but she was the one that was outraged by Ritz. She also claims that she didn’t want to be associated with anyone that was a part of Salazar’s team. Now she has a podcast with Kara. Weird stances across the board.
This board has asked Wejo or Rojo or Gault to ask Des about her own use of gray area supplements while she stood on her soap box ridiculing ALL other athletes who were doing the same thing she was. Kara and Ritz both testified in court against Salazar and many of us still don’t forgive them because they didn’t admit to taking PEDs. That would be okay if this is why Des was anti Ritz. But why a podcast with Kara?
Why a podcast with Kara? They are both attention seekers, big attention seekers. Attention means $$$$, don't kid yourself. They both love to be heard and talked about.
If anyone is dumb enough to think that they don't check these boards for any and everything being said about them, you're delusional. Years ago, someone said that the Gouchers swore off Letsrun and don't go there. Yeah, okay, sure.
I'd bet the farm that Kara and Desi are both reading this very thread, including what I just posted, as they can't help themselves. Desi never complained about super shoes in 2016, because she was 2nd. Goucher will talk about it to a snail if they'd listen, she was 4th. Think about it.