I'm just wondering if this is possible. In addition, I guess the half marathon comes to mind too.
I'm just wondering if this is possible. In addition, I guess the half marathon comes to mind too.
Run Presque Isle in Erie, Pa.
It's not as flat as Berlin, but pretty close.
It's called Chicago. Problem is the weather there is too variable every year. Could easily be done elsewhere, just need someone to do it and get financing for the race.
Run Down wrote:
I'm just wondering if this is possible. In addition, I guess the half marathon comes to mind too.
Which half?
Free_the_thigh wrote:
Run Down wrote:
I'm just wondering if this is possible. In addition, I guess the half marathon comes to mind too.
Which half?
I guess I mean as fast as Valencia wherever that could be.
FindMyMarathon.com course conversion says the Time Conversion between Berlin and the Houston Marathon is +0:00:07 in favor of Houston. Weather might play a factor but they are pretty similar - both really flat.
I live in Atlanta and always wonder if we could make a course that fast. Seeing as how we have the trials, it's been on my mind.
Somebody needs to build a ~10.5 km oval. A 4 lap marathon with no sharp turns. Either inside or outside of the paved oval there could be a dirt track for a very lame trail marathon or ultra.
I've long thought the fastest course would be some flat stretch of highway in Kansas or Nebraska or something. Point to point, no turns. Does anything like that exist? I guess wind would be an issue?
Yes
Omaha is very flat. There are some weird issues with the course (curb jumps, some dirt), but all could be addressed.
It's an out/back.
Shamrock in Virginia Beach is a pancake with very few turns - I personally think it's one of the fastest courses in the US. However, it can often be very windy, and it doesn't pay enough money to attract really fast runners.
If it paid the purse of a WMM, I'm thinking it would be considered on par with Chicago, Berlin, and London as where one goes to try for a WR.
darkwave wrote:
Shamrock in Virginia Beach is a pancake with very few turns - I personally think it's one of the fastest courses in the US. However, it can often be very windy, and it doesn't pay enough money to attract really fast runners.
If it paid the purse of a WMM, I'm thinking it would be considered on par with Chicago, Berlin, and London as where one goes to try for a WR.
Check out Newport News. Similar flatness, point to point, and less wind.
asdfasdfsdf wrote:
I've long thought the fastest course would be some flat stretch of highway in Kansas or Nebraska or something. Point to point, no turns. Does anything like that exist? I guess wind would be an issue?
P2P not record eligible.
Have a legit marathon, no interchangeable pacers, at the sub 2 site.
Hgfdsshjb wrote:
asdfasdfsdf wrote:
I've long thought the fastest course would be some flat stretch of highway in Kansas or Nebraska or something. Point to point, no turns. Does anything like that exist? I guess wind would be an issue?
P2P not record eligible.
Have a legit marathon, no interchangeable pacers, at the sub 2 site.
Strike that, not USA, doh.
sure, any just about any west coast town or city. The problem is getting money and publicity for the race. If a shoe company wanted to, they could host a world record attempt anywhere in the coastal US really, but it wouldn't be cost effective to them.
builditandtheywillrun wrote:
Somebody needs to build a ~10.5 km oval. A 4 lap marathon with no sharp turns. Either inside or outside of the paved oval there could be a dirt track for a very lame trail marathon or ultra.
Belle Isle in Detroit used to hold one...it's about 10k around it and the marathon was ~4 laps or so...they hold a car race on the isle each year, very smooth turns and flat...except for wind, it could be a great course for both fast times and spectating.
What are some fast US halfs and 10ks that could be looped?
RnR New Orleans is as absolutely flat as it gets, and there are long stretches with no turns. It's run late February or Early March, and each of the 3 times I've run it, it was clear and around 50F at the start. Many years ago Martin Lel and Sammy Wanjiru ran the half and ran something like 60:20.
The course is record eligible as far as I know. I think the reason it doesn't attract really fast people these days is the RnR fact. Probably no appearance money and very little money for winning. Shame too, it's a great course.
Yes.